From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: color-theme.el Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:12:06 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20020824043224.GC20524@reactor-core.org> <87r8goqjzt.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87vg5vlwlr.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87ofbmomnm.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030623316 14411 127.0.0.1 (29 Aug 2002 12:15:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 12:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17kOCa-0003kA-00 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:15:08 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17kOir-00036L-00 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:48:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17kODy-0004g2-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:16:34 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17kO9n-0004Tu-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:12:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17kO9l-0004Ti-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:12:14 -0400 Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk ([130.225.40.227]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17kO9k-0004TX-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA23551 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:12:11 +0200 Original-Received: (from abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id OAA00140; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:12:06 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: zuse.dina.kvl.dk: abraham set sender to abraham@dina.kvl.dk using -f Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: <87ofbmomnm.fsf@emacswiki.org> (Alex Schroeder's message of "Wed, 28 Aug 2002 20:37:01 +0200") Original-Lines: 30 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7107 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7107 Alex Schroeder writes: > Well, if I cannot generalize it from the existing themes I maintain, > who is going to offer an opinion? Everyone can offer an opinion, but nobody can do so based on realistic empirical data, as no such data exists. It is basically a question of intuition how popular themes are going to be, and what they will be used for. Your scheme won't integrate cleanly with customize (the option will be marked "rogue", i.e. "option is changed outside customize"), which is my major emotional problem with it. It will make customize less useful than now, when another major customization feature doesn't "play nice" with it. > And I am saying these eventhough I ported Jan's code from XEmacs to > Emacs! I did so too, at least the Lisp part. I remember writing ChangeLogs for them once. Unrelated to what is best, having different schemes for Emacs and XEmacs is certainly going to make them both much less useful. Especially for cross-platform packages like Gnus. But as I said before, if nobody is actually going to do the work of integrating Jan's themes in GNU Emacs, your stuff is better than nothing. And since I'm not volunteering (again) and you are, your opinion should carrry more weight.