From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default Emacs keybindings Date: Mon, 03 May 2004 12:33:34 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040502211541.GA26227@fencepost> <85y8oa6nwi.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <87n04paner.fsf@peder.flower> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083581047 20635 80.91.224.253 (3 May 2004 10:44:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 10:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon May 03 12:43:58 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKavW-0000ws-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 12:43:58 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKavU-0005Xw-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 12:43:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BKaq1-0005eS-Kn for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 06:38:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BKamk-00055s-Qw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 06:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BKalj-0004nR-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 06:34:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.224.249] (helo=main.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BKalZ-0004a5-F2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 May 2004 06:33:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BKalU-0000eC-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 12:33:40 +0200 Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk ([130.225.40.227]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 12:33:36 +0200 Original-Received: from abraham by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 May 2004 12:33:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 14 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sheridan.dina.kvl.dk X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7aPl70elBSs+znbLH01IgpHivTQ= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22603 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22603 Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > Btw, Kim, (no offence intended), I think it makes a lot of sense for > people like (you and?) me, who use computers a lot, to look around for > and carefully choose a keyboard (and pointing device) that could make > their `work' more easy or relaxed. I used to do that. Back when I was chained to a terminal down in the cellar, and my only human contact was the supervisor who handed me a bowel of gruel twice a day. These days, I tend to move around a bit, work on different computers, talk to users, and help them on their own computers. This has gotten a lot easier after I gave up special hardware with foot pedals and the like, and instead learned to be productive with standard tools and minimal customizations.