From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Save Options vs. default-input-method Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:24:39 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: References: <200201302237.g0UMb1d24844@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202040927.g149RUF02434@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202051248.g15CmDb02207@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202071457.g17EvBK04629@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202100517.g1A5Hoe06105@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202110209.g1B29mh06648@aztec.santafe.edu> <200202121523.g1CFNpo07307@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: quimby2.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: quimby2.netfonds.no 1013531897 14574 195.204.10.66 (12 Feb 2002 16:38:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby2.netfonds.no NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Feb 2002 16:38:17 GMT Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby2.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16afwf-0003my-00 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:38:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16afm3-0002Cd-00; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:27:19 -0500 Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk ([130.225.40.227]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16afjW-00023a-00 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:24:42 -0500 Original-Received: from ssv2.dina.kvl.dk (ssv2.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.226]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA11485; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:24:39 +0100 Original-Received: from abraham by ssv2.dina.kvl.dk with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16afjT-0008BA-00; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:24:39 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: <200202121523.g1CFNpo07307@aztec.santafe.edu> (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:23:51 -0700 (MST)") Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: quimby.gnus.org gmane.emacs.devel:1041 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:1041 Richard Stallman writes: > Removing the standard value mean you can no longer choose "Erase > customization" from customize, but it ensures that the option is > always saved. > > Is there some reason we want this always to be saved? In general: If the standard value changes a lot, we might want to save the option even if identical to the current standard value, as it might not be identical to future standard values. > What precisely would go wrong if you make t the standard value? Even when there isn't any tool bar? That might work, a user might want to tell Emacs never to turn on the tool bar, but is not likely to tell Emacs to always turn on the tool bar, even when Emacs would not do it by default. Should I change the standard value for `menu-bar-mode' and `tool-bar-mode' to t? _______________________________________________ Emacs-devel mailing list Emacs-devel@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel