From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:11:00 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <4E079767.30601@harpegolden.net> <87vcvmtc7z.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de> <87liwgg3vv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y60elo83.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309951795 24041 80.91.229.12 (6 Jul 2011 11:29:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:29:55 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 13:29:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeQIb-00034U-7W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:29:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48485 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeQIa-0007RT-03 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:29:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54701) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeQ4k-0004gW-WF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:15:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeQ4j-000249-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:15:26 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:45441) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QeQ4i-00023y-Vk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:15:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QeQ4h-000543-VF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:15:23 +0200 Original-Received: from 85.183.18.158 ([85.183.18.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:15:23 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by 85.183.18.158 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:15:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 85.183.18.158 Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7Yhi6Dq0+03SwotCs2DjcKJ7PXg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141646 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Since there are problems with having Emacs check at run time > whether there is a configured MTA, I propose doing it inside > `make install'. > > It could run a program that tries sending messages to certain chosen > addresses, and detects the results. This program could afford to wait > a certain amount of time for the results to show up, with no danger it > will be terminated by a user who does not realize it is still working > on the problem. > > Since `make install' is run as root, it could look for a bounce > message in root's local inbox too. I don't think that's a valid assumption. I always install "locally". Primarily because of the somewhat hairy Debian setup.