From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:44:04 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020419095141.00bf8580@san-francisco.beasys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019317526 17406 127.0.0.1 (20 Apr 2002 15:45:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 15:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16yx3F-0004Wd-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:45:25 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16yxN9-0001OV-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:05:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yx32-0006Or-00; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:45:12 -0400 Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk ([130.225.40.227]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yx20-0006KE-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 11:44:09 -0400 Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA16885; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:44:05 +0200 Original-Received: (from abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id RAA27394; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:44:04 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: zuse.dina.kvl.dk: abraham set sender to abraham@dina.kvl.dk using -f Original-To: xemacs-design@xemacs.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020419095141.00bf8580@san-francisco.beasys.com> (Andy Piper's message of "Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:55:17 -0700") Original-Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2844 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2844 Andy Piper writes: > Well so is Windows, but the advantage is that everyone knows how it > works - you can get up to speed quickly on an application because > everything works the way you expect. I'm not saying dialog boxes > aren't clumsy, inefficient etc, etc - but for a bunch of users its > what they expect. So it seems to me the principle of least surprise > applies here. I'd like Emacs to exceed the users expectations, rather than just meet them. However, currently doesn't even meet the current standards for HCI, and while I'm full of hot air, you are doing useful work towards that goal. So I'll shut up now.