From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound.. Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:15:58 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87ofbji88u.fsf@emacswiki.org> <200209021705.g82H50d07442@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200209022324.g82NOoO08761@rum.cs.yale.edu> <20020903130247.GA6318@gnu.org> <20020903173120.GA29981@gnu.org> <87ptvttnyo.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031220983 13140 127.0.0.1 (5 Sep 2002 10:16:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mtgU-0003Po-00 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:16:22 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17muG7-0003kr-00 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:53:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mti5-0004nJ-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 06:18:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mtgD-0004YC-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 06:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mtgA-0004XR-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 06:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk ([130.225.40.227]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mtgA-0004XK-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 06:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA16355 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:16:00 +0200 Original-Received: (from abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id MAA13842; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:15:58 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: zuse.dina.kvl.dk: abraham set sender to abraham@dina.kvl.dk using -f Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: <87ptvttnyo.fsf@emacswiki.org> (Alex Schroeder's message of "Thu, 05 Sep 2002 00:00:15 +0200") Original-Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7530 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7530 Alex Schroeder writes: > Generally I feel like taking the pragmatic approach: Let us use the > solution that fits 80% of the problems. This will give us users, and > these will in turn contribute to hopefully fix the remaining problems. Since two keymaps 100% solution is not an option, I believe we should just use your code as is. We might get a 90% solution by various hacks, but I think this would just make the rules more confusing. With your code, the rules are simle: If you change a keymap with customize, all other changes are lost. With such a simple rule, the rest of the world can comply. I.e. the user should put no define-key for the map in his .emacs, and foo-extra.el should be reimplemented as a minor mode instead.