From: Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: Save Options vs. default-input-method
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:34:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <rj4rkkwgni.fsf@ssv2.dina.kvl.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200202140311.g1E3BRJ09026@aztec.santafe.edu> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:11:27 -0700 (MST)")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> > Is there some reason we want this always to be saved?
>
> In general: If the standard value changes a lot, we might want to save
> the option even if identical to the current standard value, as it
> might not be identical to future standard values.
>
> Does that apply here? Do these standard values change a lot? I don't
> see that they do. As far as I know, these defaults have never changed
> since these features were first implemented.
True for menu-bar-mode, but tool-bar-mode is nil if you start with "-nw".
> > What precisely would go wrong if you make t the standard value?
>
> Even when there isn't any tool bar? That might work, a user might
> want to tell Emacs never to turn on the tool bar, but is not likely to
> tell Emacs to always turn on the tool bar, even when Emacs would not
> do it by default.
>
> As far as I know, Emacs always turns on the tool bar by default.
> Or at least it tries to. On some terminals this does not succeed
> because they cannot support the feature, but Emacs always tries
> to have a tool bar.
>
> Am I mistaken?
I don't think Emacs even enter the part of the code that turn on
tool-bar-mode when you start it with -nw, but it doesn't matter. If
setting standard-value unconditionally to t give the most useful
behavior, we should do that.
Will you give me an OK to change standard-value for menu-bar-mode and
tool-bar-mode to t?
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2002-02-07 14:57 ` [PATCH] Re: Save Options vs. default-input-method Richard Stallman
2002-02-07 17:41 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-07 21:15 ` Pavel Janík
2002-02-08 7:50 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-07 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-07 16:50 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-08 23:23 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <rjpu3jzwyd.fsf_-_@ssv2.dina.kvl.dk>
2002-02-07 14:57 ` [PATCH] text-mode-hook-identify should be part of the standard value for text-mode-hook Richard Stallman
2002-02-07 16:27 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-08 23:23 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-09 11:38 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-11 2:08 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-13 18:04 ` ShengHuo ZHU
[not found] ` <rjlme7zwja.fsf@ssv2.dina.kvl.dk>
2002-02-07 14:57 ` [PATCH] Re: Save Options vs. default-input-method Richard Stallman
2002-02-07 16:31 ` Per Abrahamsen
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[not found] ` <200202110209.g1B29mh06648@aztec.santafe.edu>
2002-02-11 17:15 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-12 9:56 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-13 15:38 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-12 15:23 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-12 16:39 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-12 15:23 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-12 16:24 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-14 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-14 9:34 ` Per Abrahamsen [this message]
2002-02-15 10:36 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-17 10:31 ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-02-17 22:50 ` Richard Stallman
2002-02-19 10:31 ` Per Abrahamsen
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