From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Preview: portable dumper Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:14:17 -0800 Message-ID: References: <047a67ec-9e29-7e4e-0fb0-24c3e59b5886@dancol.org> <83zikjxt1j.fsf@gnu.org> <8360n6ruzu.fsf@gnu.org> <0839b53b-4607-144f-3746-db054a29c1cd@cs.ucla.edu> <83zikiqdu5.fsf@gnu.org> <834m2orkhn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480533285 16045 195.159.176.226 (30 Nov 2016 19:14:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:14:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Paul Eggert , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 20:14:41 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAL3-0003bE-2M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 20:14:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45946 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAL6-0004SZ-Re for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:14:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50765) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAKw-0004Rm-1b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:14:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAKv-0004fk-3p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:14:33 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3]:44238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAKu-0004dj-Kj; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:14:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=jVgBINSsbH4djWSjFzOBpHmllkAXfBt3tefW5QjiBBE=; b=eAesdzZYY0gAvSNXGVVIluqOltim2pWh4XdRnx6BNncV7MluaHeINKFexVGTc4Qj8SjqCQyjoRBPsESV67Tw/gE3xxTPVMkf9l4A4yNi8+eA10L58dLLMUmyhGSGAN0+o3xiFbniGLuwUiTd0p93Vs2plVYz4fWZY9Yf8GVf3w625r4u5tjlzFJgZc/sieL426CffhnRVAO5A0Ef7p4uug+abdBA7jsHSXz0Y+6C5dkrq3cgWi4Ptw//1SxjGeTP5o0fqWALiyJZF4bM4hKQnv8PvWPB2JOK/64lkEl7VVT/0pVOoxPEJZFNgVcAJ+lStL8g2CzzJ8xPNH4tCsx1QA==; Original-Received: from [2620:0:1008:1101:f576:4f4f:fbad:bc71] (helo=dancol-glaptop0) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCAKm-0007jU-8f; Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:14:24 -0800 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:57:05 -0800") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fedf:adf3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209828 Archived-At: On Wed, Nov 30 2016, John Wiegley wrote: >>>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii writes: > > EZ> Maybe, maybe not. I don't understand why we need to grasp the first straw > EZ> we see around to get rid of unexec. What's the rush? > > Eli has a good point here, there really is no rush. Daniel, would you be > willing to continue to incubate these changes in a branch, while we also > consider and explore alternatives? No. This code isn't disruptive to the Emacs core if it's used, so there's no reason to keep it out of master. Experience with the concurrency branch tells me that interesting work in some feature branch ghetto never actually gets merged. I maintain that Eli's concerns about maintainability are unfounded.