* Mail slowness part MXCIV @ 2011-07-17 16:04 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2011-07-17 16:35 ` Leo ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-17 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel One of the nice things about having commit messages and diffs go to a mailing list is that you can keep track, easily, of what people (and yourself) are doing. Reading the commit messages is much more handy than trying to see what people did via the vc. Which is why it's so frustrating that the GNU mailing lists are so slow, and are so erratic. At the time of writing this, the last commit mail was posted 46 hours ago. Have there been oodles of commits in the mean time? Yes. If, as usual, it turns out that it's impossible to get anybody to actually do something about the apparent main problem (erratic mailing list MTAs), could we just add the Gmane submission email address as a Cc to the commit messages, so that it would be possible to read the messages anyway? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-17 16:04 Mail slowness part MXCIV Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-17 16:35 ` Leo 2011-07-17 16:37 ` Leo 2011-07-17 18:43 ` Glenn Morris 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Leo @ 2011-07-17 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel On 2011-07-18 00:04 +0800, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > If, as usual, it turns out that it's impossible to get anybody to > actually do something about the apparent main problem (erratic mailing > list MTAs), could we just add the Gmane submission email address as a Cc > to the commit messages, so that it would be possible to read the > messages anyway? That would be great! Leo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-17 16:04 Mail slowness part MXCIV Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2011-07-17 16:35 ` Leo @ 2011-07-17 16:37 ` Leo 2011-07-17 18:43 ` Glenn Morris 2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Leo @ 2011-07-17 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel On 2011-07-18 00:04 +0800, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > If, as usual, it turns out that it's impossible to get anybody to > actually do something about the apparent main problem (erratic mailing > list MTAs), could we just add the Gmane submission email address as a Cc > to the commit messages, so that it would be possible to read the > messages anyway? That would be great! Leo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-17 16:04 Mail slowness part MXCIV Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2011-07-17 16:35 ` Leo 2011-07-17 16:37 ` Leo @ 2011-07-17 18:43 ` Glenn Morris 2011-07-17 18:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2011-07-17 18:51 ` Glenn Morris 2 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2011-07-17 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > list MTAs), could we just add the Gmane submission email address as a Cc > to the commit messages, so that it would be possible to read the > messages anyway? That doesn't help if the problem is with sending mail on Savannah. Try opening a Savannah support request in the first instance. It certainly looks like something has gone wrong at the moment. If the problem is a general GNU mailing list one, then try asking sysadmin@gnu. Nobody at emacs-devel can really do anything about this directly. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-17 18:43 ` Glenn Morris @ 2011-07-17 18:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2011-07-18 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier 2011-07-17 18:51 ` Glenn Morris 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-17 18:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes: > Try opening a Savannah support request in the first instance. > It certainly looks like something has gone wrong at the moment. It's always like this, as far as I can tell. Commit messages appear two to fifty two hours after the commit has been done. The mailing lists are typically ten minutes to nine hours, so they're usually a bit faster. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-17 18:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-18 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier 2011-07-18 17:44 ` Andreas Schwab 2011-07-19 21:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2011-07-18 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel >> Try opening a Savannah support request in the first instance. >> It certainly looks like something has gone wrong at the moment. > It's always like this, as far as I can tell. Commit messages appear two > to fifty two hours after the commit has been done. IIUC part of the problem is that the Bzr commit emails are generated via polling: basically like repeatedly doing a "bzr pull" until you see that there's something new at which point you send the content that you just pulled. Stefa ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-18 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2011-07-18 17:44 ` Andreas Schwab 2011-07-19 21:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Andreas Schwab @ 2011-07-18 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > IIUC part of the problem is that the Bzr commit emails are generated via > polling: basically like repeatedly doing a "bzr pull" until you see that > there's something new at which point you send the content that you > just pulled. That part is working fine, as you can see from last_revision_mailed. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-18 15:40 ` Stefan Monnier 2011-07-18 17:44 ` Andreas Schwab @ 2011-07-19 21:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2011-07-19 22:17 ` Glenn Morris 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-19 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > IIUC part of the problem is that the Bzr commit emails are generated via > polling: basically like repeatedly doing a "bzr pull" until you see that > there's something new at which point you send the content that you > just pulled. Using a post-commit hook would surely be faster, more reliable and use fewer resources? I googled, and apparently bzr supports doing this: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/plugins/en/email-plugin.html -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-19 21:38 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-19 22:17 ` Glenn Morris 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2011-07-19 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Using a post-commit hook would surely be faster, more reliable and use > fewer resources? > > I googled, and apparently bzr supports doing this: > > http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/plugins/en/email-plugin.html I think Savannah disabled bzr plugins due to security concerns. I think this is covered somewhere in the Savannah mailing list archives. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: Mail slowness part MXCIV 2011-07-17 18:43 ` Glenn Morris 2011-07-17 18:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-17 18:51 ` Glenn Morris 1 sibling, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2011-07-17 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Glenn Morris wrote: > That doesn't help if the problem is with sending mail on Savannah. Given that my mail to this list arrived in about 2 minutes, it obviously is, so I filed https://savannah.gnu.org/support/index.php?107743 In general, emacs-devel is the wrong place to ask about GNU infrastructure. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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