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From: Mark Lillibridge <mark.lillibridge@hp.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, markus.triska@gmx.at,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs's handling of line numbers  [from bug#5042]
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:22:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <qmhochpy6hu.fsf@ts-rhel4.hpl.hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvd4068dsr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:13:07 -0500)


[sorry for the delay replying]

Stefan wrote:
>  Mark wrote:
>  > (defcustom restart-numbering-restriction nil
>  >   "If true, lines inside a restriction are numbered starting from 1.
>  > If false, line numbers correspond to position inside the buffer."
>  >   :group 'editing-basics
>  >   :type  'boolean)
>  
>  The problem is not one of line-numbers but of narrowing/restriction only
>  (which in turn has impacts on line-numbering among other things).
>  So I don't think "number" deserves to be part of the name.
>  
>  While implementing it, please try and merge it with (AKA have it replace)
>  font-lock-dont-widen.
>  
>  Of course, a better approach would distinguish the two kinds of
>  narrowing not on a buffer-basis but on a narrowing-basis, so that if you
>  interactively narrow to a portion of a page in an Info buffer, you
>  can still get line-numbers starting at the beginning of the page
>  (even if it's outside the narrowed portion).

    Hmmm.  I think some more design may be in order before implementing.
Let me try and sketch an idea based on the above:

* There are two (optional) levels of restriction: "semantic" and
  "temporary".  (better names anyone?)

* The temporary restriction is always contained in or the same as the
  semantic one.

* font-lock always uses the semantic restriction (font-lock-dont-widen
  goes away)

* By default, line numbering is also based on the semantic restriction
  * a global option allows switching this behavior to use the temporary
    restriction for line numbering.

* Rmail, Info, and the like, use the semantic restriction because the
  restricted-to-unit is effectively an independent buffer (semantic
  unit)

* The default narrowing commands available to users use the temporary
  restriction.


Does this sort of approach make sense?  Do people like it?  It is a more
global change than I was originally envisioning.

- Mark




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-11 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-15 18:47 Emacs's handling of line numbers [from bug#5042] Mark Lillibridge
     [not found] ` <jwvd4068dsr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2010-04-11 22:22   ` Mark Lillibridge [this message]
2010-04-12  2:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-17  1:57       ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-17  7:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-17 14:45           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-17 15:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-17 19:51               ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-17 21:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-17 21:17                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-17 21:31                     ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 18:15                       ` widen-one-level [was: Emacs's handling of line numbers] Drew Adams
2010-04-18 21:31                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-19  0:25                           ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 23:30                         ` Davis Herring
2010-04-19 19:57                           ` Richard Stallman
2010-04-19 20:22                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-19 22:52                             ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-19  1:56                         ` Leo
2010-04-19  2:04                           ` Drew Adams
2010-04-19 11:34                             ` Leo
2010-04-19 16:31                             ` Drew Adams
2010-04-19 17:57                               ` Leo
2010-04-19 22:56                                 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-22  9:59                                   ` Leo
2010-04-18  3:12                     ` Emacs's handling of line numbers [from bug#5042] Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18  3:49                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18  8:05                         ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-18 13:44                           ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 13:50                             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-18 16:40                               ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 14:03                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18 14:14                               ` David Kastrup
2010-04-18 16:41                               ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 17:03                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18 21:29                                   ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-18 13:45                           ` Drew Adams
2010-04-18 17:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18 17:52                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-04-18 17:56                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18 17:00                       ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-18 17:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-18 18:11                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-04-22  2:17                           ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-04-22  8:06                             ` David Kastrup
2010-04-22  8:38                               ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-22  8:45                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-06-06 18:18                             ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-06-07  1:30                               ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-07  1:41                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-06-07 13:45                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-06-09  2:20                                     ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-06-09  3:44                                       ` Miles Bader
2010-06-09  2:19                                 ` Mark Lillibridge
2010-06-09  6:37                                   ` Glenn Morris
2010-06-24  2:24                                     ` Mark Lillibridge

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