From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Alexandrov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.statistics.pspp.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: pspp-mode.el for PSPP/SPSS syntax highlighting Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2020 08:53:33 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4836167B-33A9-46A3-B586-20768E333E1D@gmx.de> <20200704151535.GA31917@jocasta.intra> <22A164F2-0003-4454-B301-3696DB7A1281@gmx.de> <87mu4dhpmn.fsf@iris.silentflame.com> <20200705183502.GA31173@jocasta.intra> <87blkthfxw.fsf@iris.silentflame.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26276"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Friedrich Beckmann , John Darrington , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , PSPP Development Mailing List , mail@vasilij.de To: Sean Whitton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 06 07:57:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jsK8N-0006iz-WD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 07:57:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43454 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jsK8M-0002Dn-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:57:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57168) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jsK4T-0000kw-Aj; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: from relay-1.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.6]:34387) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jsK4R-0006c1-GB; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 01:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: from v-1c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.161]) by relay-1.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AF60111C2; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by mail-1.net-c.com [213.182.54.15] with ESMTP Mon, 6 Jul 2020 07:53:36 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: 7k6NV3leAKPNsBdlm3U0JNcRN+Q9bYDk2cAEIH1K8YCuJeCikts7GzqcBymvsAQEBgnRwvtXyuNoC4s95bTZ7nnaggL/4pdS In-Reply-To: <87blkthfxw.fsf@iris.silentflame.com> (Sean Whitton's message of "Sun, 05 Jul 2020 13:20:27 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.6; envelope-from=dag@gnui.org; helo=relay-1.mailobj.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/06 01:53:36 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252724 gmane.comp.statistics.pspp.devel:7585 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Sean Whitton wrote: > On Sun 05 Jul 2020 at 08:35PM +02, John Darrington wrote: >> Sure. But from a user's perspective I don't see the advantage in that. I mean what is the difference between typing "apt-get install pspp-mode" and "M-x package-install 'pspp-mode" ? > > From the perspective of those of us working on packaging Emacs addons in Debian, significant advantages are > > 1) the way addons work doesn't change within a Debian stable release, > just like Emacs itself doesn't change within a Debian stable release > > 2) addons get installed using Debian's mechanisms for a secure software > supply chain, rather than relying on https alone. 3) they are automatically available to #!/usr/bin/emacs --script scripts; and pollute stderr at every run: $ ./hello.el Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/00debian.el (source)... Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50autoconf.el (source)... Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50cmake-data.el (source)... Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictem.el (source)... Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)... Loading debian-ispell... Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-default.el (source)... Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-dicts.el (source)... Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50global.el (source)... Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50mu4e.el (source)... Hello, Debian! stimulating a user to learn nice tricks that allow to pass more than single argument to interpreter in order to get rid of them: #!/bin/sh ":"; exec emacs --no-site-file --no-site-lisp --script "$0" -- "$@" # -*- mode: emacs-lisp; lexical-binding: t; -*- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYIACsWIQRSX35grYEsI2F1K7TIsPhUjufz5wUCXwK8XQ0cZGFnQGdudWku b3JnAAoJEMiw+FSO5/PnNz8A/1Gmh5BOt7qARqDo2bRKuwFQJgNCQ6OJjqX1+Vxm FSUuAQDJ7NgTP+zHvEWOf4INypiWNnLaPXYika4s5qEhWBDABg== =/Kgn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--