From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Max Mikhanosha Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bugfix for utf-8 XTerm/MinTTY and (set-input-meta-mode t) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 17:45:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83k0ndzfxr.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7ihze5y.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Max Mikhanosha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10542"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 01 19:49:53 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lo8WW-0002Qz-Ec for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 19:49:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38904 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lo8WV-0001NM-A1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 13:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37170) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lo8SL-0005ys-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 13:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40134.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.134]:22719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lo8SI-00055w-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Jun 2021 13:45:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1622569523; bh=13dyD98tJ0v/N9rdcT2CID73yGL0JORHG4l3zuvKfn4=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FuLCv7edOI3QAMdpCY/vz82a0WlLIYlO116HYZQ+MkNg3l0eqfvU+AY5hiRbmLy8V FPWhdiwbgz8XuKzvtHQr9hqoDLqHe8ZfPuwxb4PiV7axNPl4vLEiATzBLdIpLY3G5N lKpP9TZT30y9WPQde3B2SveLTcC3H7yP0IQOQCzo= In-Reply-To: <83h7ihze5y.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.134; envelope-from=max.mikhanosha@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40134.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Jun 2021 13:48:17 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270232 Archived-At: On Tuesday, June 1st, 2021 at 1:29 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > And btw, why do you use MetaSendEscape:false with these emulators? It > sounds like if you set MetaSendEscape:true, your problems will be > solved, no? FWIW, this is how I use terminal emulators here, for many > years, including with non-ASCII input (and of course Meta-characters), > and I have yet to see a single problem. Its because of vi. Not to start an argument, but evil package for emacs is = best of both worlds, its vim with Elisp scripting, and my brain is already hardwired for vi keys= for decades). When typing fast in vi mode, its really frustrating to be typing, then pres= s Esc o to exit insert mode and start new line, only for it to be interpreted as M-o. = Its even worse when typing over a slow-laggy ssh connections. Thus most vi-junkies have their terminals configured with metaSendEscape:fa= lse