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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 20:54:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pkn62oskoig.fsf@this.is.really.invalid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3pqn03vkb.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Where have you been whilst spam has been conquering the world? ;)
>
> I should have been on Hawaii...
>
>> I have access to 3 separate SMTP servers, all of which require
>> authentication, and it has been normal in every company I've worked in
>> for the last half decade at least.
>
> My ISP at home doesn't require auth for SMTP -- it's all IP based.  So
> is the work SMTP server...

You Northern Europeans. So trusting... :) (or maybe my admins have been
paranoid)

Seriously, I think specifying the username/password for smtp access
needs to be fairly painless, and potentially automatic: it's not going
to decrease in use. I'd prefer it to stay in .authinfo if possible,
forcing people to .authinfo.gpg is too much.

Robert




  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-30 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 203+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-23 18:54 Emacs RPC Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24  3:21 ` T.V. Raman
2011-04-24 20:04   ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 20:24     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25 17:55       ` Richard Stallman
2011-05-01 18:53         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02  2:13           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 21:25             ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-02 22:54               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 20:26     ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 17:56       ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 17:40 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-24 18:00   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 19:56     ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-25  1:21     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25  1:26       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25  2:05         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 12:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 12:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 17:00 ` Emacs RPC security (was: Emacs RPC) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 17:35   ` Emacs RPC security Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:02     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:17       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 19:43         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:38       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:57         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-01 18:55       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:02         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:19           ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el (was: Emacs RPC security) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 15:20             ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el James Cloos
2011-05-02 18:52             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 18:59               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 19:21                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 23:36                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  0:29                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  1:01                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  1:22                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 22:04                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04  1:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 17:45                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:07                                 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 18:14                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:54                                     ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2011-05-30 19:13                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 19:43                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 23:10                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31  7:11                                         ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-31 10:13                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 18:19                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 19:39                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 20:32                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-01  0:37                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01  1:29                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01  2:04                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 12:37                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 13:34                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 14:39                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 15:14                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02  4:09                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02  8:57                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-02 11:45                                                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 12:24                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02 14:20                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 15:03                                                                       ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 15:31                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 21:54                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 15:11                                                                             ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-26 10:09                                                                               ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 15:43                                                                                 ` GPGME (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-27 21:47                                                                                   ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-28 11:56                                                                                     ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28 20:36                                                                                       ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29  8:07                                                                                         ` secure plist store Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29  8:25                                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-29  9:05                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:46                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:30                                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:38                                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:39                                                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:54                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:59                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:58                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:34                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:31                                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:23                                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 23:10                                                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:36                                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:37                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:36                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30  7:43                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:19                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:42                                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 14:54                                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 22:18                                                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 22:34                                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-01  2:28                                                                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:18                                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-03  2:13                                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 11:09                                                                                         ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:15                                                                                           ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 17:21                                                                                             ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:41                                                                                               ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:46                                                                                                 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 13:09                                                                 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 13:44                                                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-03 21:50                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31  1:25                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 18:21                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 21:18                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-03 21:48                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 14:55                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-09 18:02                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-09 21:06                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 16:05                                                   ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 21:47                                                     ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 22:21                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 16:20                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 21:21                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-16  3:49                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16  8:32                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-16 13:35                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16 20:28                                                               ` Reiner Steib
2011-06-16 21:05                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-17  1:03                                                                 ` should docstrings include all defcustom options? (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17  7:17                                                               ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Robert Pluim
2011-06-17  9:32                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17  9:53                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-17 10:21                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 19:32                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 19:51                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 20:19                                                               ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 21:01                                                                 ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:07                                                                   ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:17                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:25                                                                       ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:36                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:46                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:57                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  9:01                                                                               ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-22  8:27                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22  8:30                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  8:52                                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22  9:11                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  9:17                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  9:34                                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22  9:41                                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:25                                                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:49                                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 17:45                                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 18:48                                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-23  8:01                                                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 15:51                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:24                                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:27                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:43                                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:36                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22  2:52                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 14:53                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:50                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 16:19                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 17:16                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:50                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 19:56                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:32                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:27                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-22 20:38                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:53                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:55                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 16:51                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 15:56                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:16                                                               ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-06 15:06                                               ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Stefan Monnier
2011-06-09 17:56                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-10 20:44                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 15:20                   ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 15:25                     ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 15:47                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 21:54                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04  1:39                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-08 20:59                             ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 10:52                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:00                                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 15:30                                   ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs (was: client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:46                                     ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs David Engster
2011-05-09 15:58                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-11 21:36                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02  9:37           ` Emacs RPC security Julien Danjou
2011-05-02 18:57           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 19:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-02 19:56               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 22:56                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  0:25                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  0:51                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  1:12                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  1:16                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  1:27                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  1:34                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  2:35                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03  6:24                         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-05-03 13:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03  0:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-26 12:13 ` Emacs RPC Sebastian Rose
2011-04-26 13:18   ` Stefan Monnier

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