From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Using gnutls.c by default Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 15:22:14 +0200 Organization: not if I can help it Message-ID: References: <8739kxvvc6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DBF352E.4010103@gmail.com> <87oc3hh1if.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1304601759 2009 80.91.229.12 (5 May 2011 13:22:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:22:39 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 05 15:22:36 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHyVn-0007hN-SZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:22:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45101 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHyVn-0000E5-AI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 09:22:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45869) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHyVk-0000E0-Tr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 09:22:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHyVj-0004PS-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 09:22:32 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QHyVj-0004PO-K5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 09:22:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QHyVd-0007Zz-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:22:25 +0200 Original-Received: from lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net ([81.56.191.143]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:22:25 +0200 Original-Received: from rpluim by lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 May 2011 15:22:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lns-bzn-49f-81-56-191-143.adsl.proxad.net Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+Ec2x9Bukb6B9JGcQinaPjdK6N4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:139152 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Tue, 3 May 2011 01:09:02 +0200 Juanma Barranquero wrote: > > JB> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 00:50, Christoph Scholtes > JB> wrote: > >>> Right now, if you enable GnuTLS support on Windows, you MUST have the GnuTLS >>> libraries in order to even start Emacs. This is, I believe, what Juanma's >>> improvements will fix (dynamic loading of the library if needed, much like >>> the graphics libraries). > > JB> Right. > >>> Until this is implemented, GnuTLS should not be enabled by default and >>> Sean's weekly builds should also not be built with GnuTLS support enabled. > > JB> Agreed. > > Now that W32 has dynamic GnuTLS loading, I think it can be enabled by > default. Does anyone have objections or comments? As I mentioned I > don't use that platform so I can't speak for its users. I've been using it under cygwin for a while now. I do still get hangs occasionally, but they're definitely not GnuTLS' fault (my X server hangs as well at the same time, and sometimes I hadn't even started gnus, so gnutls.el would not have been loaded yet), and they're very highly correlated with wifi + ip address changes. I'd say go for it. Robert