Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4)

Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4)

[Antoine Gautier]

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Merci / thanks /Gracie to all who responded to my earlier message.

I finally managed to D'load the CVS emacs and try to compile using E. 
Franconi's INSTALL instructions, but failed in the early stages of 
'make'. The problem could be on my side, my version of apple's 
dev-tools is not the very latest.

I will keep trying and report if/when progress occurs (!).

Regards,

Antoine Gautier

Faculté des Sciences de l'administration
Université Laval
internet : http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
courriel : antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca

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Merci / thanks /Gracie to all who responded to my earlier message.


I finally managed to D'load the CVS emacs and try to compile using E.
Franconi's INSTALL instructions, but failed in the early stages of
'make'. The problem could be on my side, my version of apple's
dev-tools is not the very latest.


I will keep trying and report if/when progress occurs (!).


Regards,


Antoine Gautier 


Faculté des Sciences de l'administration

Université Laval 

internet :
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courriel : antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca


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Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4)

[Hans-Peter Binder]

* Antoine Gautier <Antoine.Gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca> writes:
> Merci / thanks /Gracie to all who responded to my earlier message.
> 
> I finally managed to D'load the CVS emacs and try to compile using E.
> Franconi's INSTALL instructions, but failed in the early stages of
> 'make'. The problem could be on my side, my version of apple's
> dev-tools is not the very latest.

Do you have said 'make bootstrap' ;-)


Regards/Gruesse
Hans-Peter Binder
-- 
(coffee-mode -1)

Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4)

[Antoine Gautier]

Yes, 'make bootstrap' fails as it begins to 'make'.

Regards,

Antoine

On Mercredi, mars 5, 2003, at 04:17 Canada/Eastern, Hans-Peter Binder 
wrote:

> * Antoine Gautier <Antoine.Gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca> writes:
>> Merci / thanks /Gracie to all who responded to my earlier message.
>>
>> I finally managed to D'load the CVS emacs and try to compile using E.
>> Franconi's INSTALL instructions, but failed in the early stages of
>> 'make'. The problem could be on my side, my version of apple's
>> dev-tools is not the very latest.
>
> Do you have said 'make bootstrap' ;-)
>
>
> Regards/Gruesse
> Hans-Peter Binder
> -- 
> (coffee-mode -1)
>
>
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Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4) :

[Guillaume Lessard]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 02:32  AM, Steven Tamm wrote:

> <excerpt>The binary distributions of GNU Emacs on versiontracker are
> woefully out of date.  I had an email conversation with the guy who
> posted the "Enhanced Version" and we sort of agreed to disagree.  In
> any case, the version you have is almost 3 months old and many, many
> bugs have been fixed. =20
>
[snip]
>
> The bigger question is what to do about the binary distributions of
> 21.3 that are floating around with bugs that people report.

How about making them obsolete?

Here's the real problem: there's a major unix platform out there that is 
not supported by any "released" version of Emacs. Its name is "Mac OS X".

The only reason I considered (and did) get on emacs's CVS repository is 
that it was at the time the only way to actually *get* a functional 
(windowed) emacs on OS X.

At this point, it works pretty well. The problems I encounter in external 
packages seem to be related to changes in the lisp code between 21.3 and 
21.4; fixing that most likely requires a release. (Example: JDEE became 
broken on Carbon Emacs during the past 3 months; it worked fine before).

How long until 21.4 is released?

--
Guillaume Lessard
glessard@its.caltech.edu
Graduate Student
Caltech Applied Physics/Electrical Engineering

Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4) :

[Juanma Barranquero]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:14:19 -0800, Guillaume Lessard <glessard@its.caltech.edu> wrote:

> How long until 21.4 is released?

On 2002/09/27, RMS said: "21.4 is likely to be many months away."

http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2002-09/msg00973.html.

21.2 it's been out for a year (well, its first birthday is in two weeks).
21.3 is in pretest since 2002/05/25 or so. It seems like it could hit
the streets Any Time Now. OTOH, that's been true for several months :)

There was a discussion about releases, etc. in November:

http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2002-11/msg00090.html

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Re: Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4) : trying to save as mac-roman

[Steven Tamm]

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The binary distributions of GNU Emacs on versiontracker are woefully 
out of date.  I had an email conversation with the guy who posted the 
"Enhanced Version" and we sort of agreed to disagree.  In any case, the 
version you have is almost 3 months old and many, many bugs have been 
fixed.

If you do not need to specialized LaTeX support in the "enhanced" 
version I would suggest pulling down the CVS,  following the directions 
at savannah:  See http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=emacs .  Once you 
have that, and assuming you have installed the OSX developer tools, all 
you have to do is follow the directions in the mac/INSTALL, which 
contains the three commands you need to execute in the terminal.

The bigger question is what to do about the binary distributions of 
21.3 that are floating around with bugs that people report.  The ones 
on versiontracker all do the wrong thing, either include more than what 
is needed (like this one with TeX stuff), or less than what is needed, 
or install in the wrong place, like in /usr/bin.   I'm kind of 
regretting the whole make-package script.

-Steven

On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 12:01  PM, Antoine Gautier wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is a copy of a post I made on gnu.emacs.help, I am beginning to 
> suspect that I either found a bug or that my installation is flawed.
>
> I just installed Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4)
> on mac os X 10.2.4, and I have no succes trying to save mac-roman
> encoded files (saving as latin1 works fine).
>
> I tried adding a number of things to my .emacs, such as
>
> (prefer-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac)
> (set-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac)
> (set default-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac)
>
> with no result. The files do get saved, but are unreadable by other mac
> apps. Even re-opening them with emacs I get a bunch of ????'s (only
> accentuated characters such as é, à, ô, etc. come out OK : 'été' gets 
> saved as 'é?é').
>
> Trying to set the coding from emacs (c-x ret f mac-roman) does not 
> help either.
>
> For some odd reason I can correctly open mac-roman files, but saving
> them does not work.
>
> Also : whenever I lauch emacs.app I get the following message on 
> console.app :
>
> ## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias 
> of type (regR/carP/x!bt)
>
> but lauching terminal.app does that too.
>
> Maybe it has to do with the many emacs's installed in /usr/bin (?)
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated !
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antoine Gautier
>
> Faculté des Sciences de l'administration
> Université Laval
> internet : http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
> courriel : antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca
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The binary distributions of GNU Emacs on versiontracker are woefully
out of date.  I had an email conversation with the guy who posted the
"Enhanced Version" and we sort of agreed to disagree.  In any case,
the version you have is almost 3 months old and many, many bugs have
been fixed.  


If you do not need to specialized LaTeX support in the "enhanced"
version I would suggest pulling down the CVS,  following the
directions at savannah:  See http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=emacs
.  Once you have that, and assuming you have installed the OSX
developer tools, all you have to do is follow the directions in the
mac/INSTALL, which contains the three commands you need to execute in
the terminal.


The bigger question is what to do about the binary distributions of
21.3 that are floating around with bugs that people report.  The ones
on versiontracker all do the wrong thing, either include more than
what is needed (like this one with TeX stuff), or less than what is
needed, or install in the wrong place, like in /usr/bin.   I'm kind of
regretting the whole make-package script.


-Steven


On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 12:01  PM, Antoine Gautier wrote:


<excerpt>Hi all,


Here is a copy of a post I made on gnu.emacs.help, I am beginning to
suspect that I either found a bug or that my installation is flawed.


I just installed Enhanced Carbon Emacs (version 2.1, emacs 21.3.50.4)

on mac os X 10.2.4, and I have no succes trying to save mac-roman

encoded files (saving as latin1 works fine).


I tried adding a number of things to my .emacs, such as


(prefer-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac)

(set-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac)

(set default-buffer-file-coding-system 'mac-roman-mac)


with no result. The files do get saved, but are unreadable by other mac

apps. Even re-opening them with emacs I get a bunch of ????'s (only

accentuated characters such as é, à, ô, etc. come out OK : 'été' gets
saved as 'é?é').


Trying to set the coding from emacs (c-x ret f mac-roman) does not
help either.


For some odd reason I can correctly open mac-roman files, but saving

them does not work.


Also : whenever I lauch emacs.app I get the following message on
console.app :


## Component Manager: attempting to find symbols in a component alias
of type (regR/carP/x!bt)


but lauching terminal.app does that too.


Maybe it has to do with the many emacs's installed in /usr/bin (?)


Any help will be greatly appreciated !


Regards,



Antoine Gautier 


Faculté des Sciences de l'administration

Université Laval 

internet :
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