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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294748 Archived-At: Suppose we: ... 1. Look forward to the Wayland-only world (ie No X) I know that will be a while... 2. But suppose, in that world, we could write an Emacs Window Manager (whatever that means under Wayland) ... 3 Will things get easier in that somewhat pure world where one doesn't have to both look backwards and forwards as we are apparently forced to do right now? --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8