"T.V Raman" writes: I found the cause and the temporary fix for emacspeak is to set '(org-fold-core-style 'overlays) For org-mode folks: could you point me at what to implement to get the text-property version at my end; typically means I need to understand what makes things invisible and have that make things inaudible. > Not directly -- just did a quick check. > Still mysterious since emacs -q with emacspeak doesn't exhibit the > problem. > > I went back to emacs 29 and still see the problem, so it's somewhere > in org. > > -- > > Thanks, > > --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) > ♈ Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 🦮 -- Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) ♈ Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 🦮