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From: raman <raman@google.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: scrolling in shell buffer
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:18:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p91wpetdznd.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1cJOwT-0000vX-78@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 20 Dec 2016 13:15:13 -0500")

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:


I agree with RMS here. And even if there are GUI terminals that do the
wrong thing, it doesn't mean that Emacs needs to race them to the bottom:-)> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > > I think that we should make the default behavior for shell buffers,
>   > > when point is at the end, to scroll to keep point at the bottom of the
>   > > window.
>   > > 
>   > > Does anyone disagree that this behavior would be right?
>
>   > By default?  I don't think I agree.  It's just another Emacs buffer.
>
> It is meant to resemble a terminal.  I think it should treat this case
> like the other terminals we use.  The Linux console scrolls the cursor
> to the bottom line, and so does the GNOME terminal.
>
> You can scroll back through the text, but there no use for scrolling forward
> and pusting the text out of the screen.
>
>   > Also, various terminal emulators on GUI systems let me scroll the
>   > console window past its end, and don't scroll it back each time the
>   > shell or some command run from the shell outputs something.
>
> Can you tell me the names of some that do this, and how I can see an
> example for myself?

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-21 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-18 13:22 scrolling in shell buffer Richard Stallman
2016-12-18 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-19 13:07   ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-19 16:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-19 21:11       ` Johan Bockgård
2016-12-20 18:16         ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-20 18:15       ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-21 16:18         ` raman [this message]
2016-12-22 16:27         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-23 16:11           ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-23 16:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24 18:53               ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-24 19:26                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-25 20:44                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-26  3:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-22 23:59                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-01-23 21:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2017-01-27  9:41                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-20  3:50     ` John Yates

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