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[24.4.174.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d13sm449197pfl.18.2021.12.23.17.34.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:34:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8ea45edf-0bd2-a9b4-2341-e08446ea9965@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Fri, 24 Dec 2021 03:01:10 +0200") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::531 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::531; envelope-from=raman@google.com; helo=mail-pg1-x531.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -167 X-Spam_score: -16.8 X-Spam_bar: ---------------- X-Spam_report: (-16.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283065 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: Thanks for bubbling this back up -- I think this is the real issue --- and I too hope Andrea will address this last mile of native-comp --- > Hi Andrea, > > On 20.12.2021 11:29, Andrea Corallo wrote: >> Stefan Kangas writes: >>=20 >>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>> >>>>> When I said "by popular demand", I meant that. Just your own voice is >>>>> not enough, IMO. >>> >>> I have now reviewed this thread, and changing the default from nil to >>> silent has the support from Robert Pluim, Stefan Kangas, Lars >>> Ingebrigtsen, Andrea Corallo and =810=887scar Fuentes (5). >>> >>> For keeping the current default I count Eli Zaretskii (1). >>> >>> Neutral in this thread are T.V. Raman and Stefan Monnier (2). >> FWIW please count me on the neutral side, I've no formed opinion on >> this >> ATM even if the more time is passing the more I tend to think that the >> current default might be safer and/or beneficial on the long run. > > This might be a distracting aside, but could you comment on the idea > that I think Stefan mentioned previously: that the native compiler > could use not the original source files, but the byte-compiled *.elc > files as the "source". By the time those are compiled, all the > dependencies are resolved one way or another, right? So the user won't > need to suffer the same kind of warnings again. > > Do they contain the necessary information to do native-compile, and > its various optimizations? If yes, are there any other difficulties > associated with such an approach? > --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8