From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking the output of `C-h b' Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2021 06:34:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87lf29xdkf.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7cxx9bh.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgqpvtky.fsf@gnus.org> <87v91dvt6y.fsf@gnus.org> <87o874vhp2.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0hsvgvv.fsf@gnus.org> <874k8wvcie.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb18030 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28909"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 01 14:35:58 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mhXTi-0007Fu-Mz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 14:35:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51950 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhXTg-0007t8-Qt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 09:35:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhXSI-0007AZ-UX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 09:34:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x62b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62b]:35722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhXSH-0008Fu-3c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 09:34:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id b13so158661plg.2 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 06:34:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gbC3FmxqSC0SEa8jb1FCdqS2FR55QqWceltyGWa/8Fw=; b=ZItdeP/DT5ciR7iDTOw3WJ8R4+VQ78W6BP4zCLGQQ7unlBcUQOXB+ycfTZBnGYp+Rn Bw9ofPoVhIi/a+YEFzCZ8zzTF1DNFbStJvJSQc6PkyNC1/ml9SLkwWak0H4KSvcj4/fm BITpu4V7+VAt8qINuJ1A68Qc3ZuqfL0LdtVl0PN1w1+wcyaBBFr+DYvnP8NFUOzjVZ/Q 8+0FJYz67uqyCgEcVkiszLHe53/chXa/RlICGhlBsd9Lf+ZFQjPqnuU/IYWNWkPKZWSi 8sCMH5xaGRFm2zfRsnftSEvOGOZW98nkdF8y3R006SU1D9tyYu+gGQ9YDZ+jvhx/L21Y pE7w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gbC3FmxqSC0SEa8jb1FCdqS2FR55QqWceltyGWa/8Fw=; b=RVSrw1P97PjLlBAEg0TEem38cIcow+/VVG4+FiQOasIHtgU2NPRmBPnrGWUgARZQMo 6bvqQhEND0EUSwjBUNJTPlXKD9zA26WJ+9pzR+/bXxXOrUU2w4A/WiSxQiJUIm5XJ22i H2qu4ty0gzq0jKDu3TMBCfxjcqIfXAvCWuhCpUExhjr49xwG5iH15AKX+TMTSAtmkVDF 02nZxg/NWY2GSIBXV8Q0ifOEvW/qExPh/xX1/NYj6yvwGYMgIlHPnRY4mBgMkAAKnwTJ WHX5pCR2BdNjV/1KCkAJOxNxWUThGNlALL6PdSMYkZLP17+u6RSuwIszjJV6Ct0pzeTI 1bag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5335hMkv6G5FKFwZIb0kuGQDZgK3G1xYubsSYvsH0WGG+WvvSO2f cT8znsouqTYX1ltzupTa45vD4VRZhC2ixtG/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwtcK34wARMMzEO40sZ5j2YOiBvS/jzYkG0BTBib9aVkMihXPQsPRFAOcSL2zK1ayrWU/cNfA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1c06:: with SMTP id oc6mr12138934pjb.126.1635773665400; Mon, 01 Nov 2021 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from raman-glaptop (c-24-4-174-65.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [24.4.174.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b24sm13177149pgm.26.2021.11.01.06.34.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 01 Nov 2021 06:34:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874k8wvcie.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 01 Nov 2021 03:24:41 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62b; envelope-from=raman@google.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -175 X-Spam_score: -17.6 X-Spam_bar: ----------------- X-Spam_report: (-17.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278378 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: Could we also introduce some kind of section delimiter that is searchable? A line with a special face would do the trick to for an emacspeak user to jump across sections of keybindings. > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> Much better. Perhaps put "closure" as "(closure)" or "[closure]" or >> something to make it clear that this is not a command named "closure"? >> Or perhaps ""? > > Yes... Hm... I think we're outputting these things in other contexts, > too? But right now I'm blanking of which. [closure] looks OK to me. > >> Is the line necessary at all? I think one line of spacing is okay >> instead. > > I tried with or without -- with a line, we can make the spacing shorter. > Have a look at the trunk now and see what you think. (I'm not married > to the line, but I tried with a blank space instead, and it didn't look > as clear to me.) > >> We could experiment with either bold or a different color for "key" and >> "binding" and different combination of blank space/no blank space and >> line/no line. > > Yup. > >> (Can we please capitalize "Key" and "Binding" while we're at it?) > > Yeah, that is pretty unusual for Emacs to not capitalise those things. > I'll change it. --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8