From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should native compilation be enabled by default? 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[98.45.12.92]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b6-20020a170902d50600b001dd0d07b3d8sm4956958plg.201.2024.03.05.08.47.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 Mar 2024 08:47:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Tue, 05 Mar 2024 11:11:47 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62d; envelope-from=raman@google.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -175 X-Spam_score: -17.6 X-Spam_bar: ----------------- X-Spam_report: (-17.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316839 Archived-At: Andrea Corallo writes: Glad you think so:-)> "T.V Raman" writes: > >> but users then have to edit files from packages that they didn't >> write, works for a power user, but not for a typical user; > > IME typical users don't use unmaintained buggy packages, quite the > opposite. --