From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: raman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:38:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <64f224be.96dd.15558619d6a.Coremail.tumashu@163.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466091809 2715 80.91.229.3 (16 Jun 2016 15:43:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rswgnu@gmail.com, Tom , Mats Lidell , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: tumashu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 17:43:28 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bDZS1-0002jm-Uq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:43:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50209 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDZS1-0002lZ-7T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 11:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42942) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDZNc-0007C1-LW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 11:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDZNY-0007IW-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 11:38:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x229.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::229]:34289) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDZNY-0007HX-6o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 11:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-x229.google.com with SMTP id bz2so19234206pad.1 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:38:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=oTPBXkVER2d36jEdl3I4p6BWQrmYcBHtn4tAZ+FcCy8=; b=nNPkiRYWm/nbqqSVVH0cN72iYdiu7uJHFFl+zuHf8T71nS5P7kMlqbfsg+Nv4blmCn nR0uhyjx5ew1QH7An0vXf+vd64/7AwViV9Cf2JT/j+4AGraeIrqUE6CpIIyK+NGP6ymc IL37D9zN1jvKH4nYH1ojyc1Jcz1QUUerXpJnuSdY9lPewt6suAfh/e8xuVzar9TBWAuR LE3q8jdGl1512zsL53mZLvMcTCdloZ5ZPrNevtBD5hlhMZh+rRXYQH04+F1SEFXplyaj 3QRPoII970XK1vwFfLyLHfxxxBY6Xui4KmM88Szd+I9NJffN7CP4zW7n0WAkXs6pWRLG RzQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=oTPBXkVER2d36jEdl3I4p6BWQrmYcBHtn4tAZ+FcCy8=; b=QZes1XTIOf1RXgu9woHeiOZj6wyPPFjDyynARYiLTy48RjaZfDtoYuFEafxKdDueaO XEbUlzaSfNm7jYKlflNz6ERvFfoS7X4mRp+ZH9yMDvgKKMAvEd4mIJaF/PgGs+/dgm/e 8lolMdeQTmBlsX6bJY9snjGePfzZehTqvx0a+efb7ZJFGd5prHujA6ImtOkRCcB13M0H RKw3Mz1e8Wp8FrfJhJMSdy4pAp3aoOp4K7Xtit7anN9ij51DMvU4+PcjgOq4/m8wIAYS xarRU5+IAgN1DuJxD7Ll9pBUkFm2wnWtsuF0wT2H5pslcujJP5YHnPDIgjDMqKYq3HxJ QDFg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJz7mctuBlDYvqoJlRYO9+Xonnwh2l8DgluxKDF7wPUr6SD26MYADxVNj3bDeHCPvjT X-Received: by 10.66.154.74 with SMTP id vm10mr5893956pab.158.1466091525550; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:38:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from raman-glaptop2 ([207.198.106.151]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b67sm10379738pfg.85.2016.06.16.08.38.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Jun 2016 08:38:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <64f224be.96dd.15558619d6a.Coremail.tumashu@163.com> (tumashu@163.com's message of "Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:44:00 +0800 (CST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204433 Archived-At: Another thought re contact management -- LDAP support in Emacs has been hard to configure -- EUCD fell by the wayside for nearly 10 years, and ldapsearch.el only supported older versions of LDAP. About a year or more ago there was some work done on EUDC, but getting EUDC to talk to various LDAP servers is still somewhat of a black art --- and this gets worse when encountering LDAP servers that have security configured ---it's a complete mystery as to how to set up authentication. Getting some of this abstracted away by wrolo would make it a really nice front-end -- especially if one could achieve consistency across LDAP and BBDB. --