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[24.4.174.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j16sm8472150pgh.69.2021.05.29.19.06.01 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 29 May 2021 19:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by raman-glaptop.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 13930) id 09466C2050B; Sat, 29 May 2021 19:06:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 29 May 2021 14:56:20 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62d; envelope-from=raman@google.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -175 X-Spam_score: -17.6 X-Spam_bar: ----------------- X-Spam_report: (-17.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:270102 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: I'll write up these as bug reports, now that I have a somewhat better sense as to what it is I am reporting. At present, there appears to be a lot of "magic" in the bits around jit compilation, when emacs decides to generate a new .eln file etc, which makes it hard to discern a bug from a feature and consequently, phrasing a sensible question is hard as these threads have demonstrated. Also, I suspect that filing a bug report would have caused folks looking at it to "file a simple repro case", and that is something I definitely wont be able to do given that I'm chasing this down with a fairly large package as the use-case. > T.V Raman [2021-05-29 10:14:43] wrote: >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> The warnings are inconsistent as in: > > Please, please, pretty please write this in a bug report. > > Or better yet, two bug reports: one for the case where you replace > `batch-byte-compile` with `batch-native-compile`, and another for the > case where native compilation takes place lazily. > > The "extra warnings" during lazy native compilation is a known problem, > but one we need to address, so making a bug report about it will > be helpful. > > The problems you mentioned when replacing `batch-byte-compile` with > `batch-native-compile` OTOH are not known, AFAIK, so we really need > a clear bug report with details of what you did, what that got you, and > why you think it's wrong about that. > > > Stefan > > --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8