From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: raman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Q: text-quoting-style -- is its value a string or a symbol? 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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195169 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: Let me ask you the question in reverse -- what in that *help* buffer tells you that this is a string and not a symbol? Also, this is not the first time a problem is being dismissed as "it exists elsewhere so it's not a problem" that in general is more likely to turn away contributors to the project than anything else. >> From: raman >> Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:44:57 -0800 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> The quoting convention is confusing enough that at this point I just >> want it to say "it's value is a symbol" or "it's value is a string". > > The question is, is something different about that particular doc > string as opposed to other doc strings which document symbol values? > If there's nothing different, you are supposed to have the same > problem with all the other doc strings, and we should either change > all of them, or none at all. --