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X-Spam_score_int: -175 X-Spam_score: -17.6 X-Spam_bar: ----------------- X-Spam_report: (-17.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254872 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: My recommendation based on some of the present drawbacks I enumerated might be to split the custom file into per-package customizations plus an emacs-core piece. That might leave too many small files though which is the other end of the pendulum's swing with respect to the windows-registry single file failure, ie the UNIX world of a zillion dot-files --- but given the experience of both worlds, perhaps we can find a good middle ground.> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email:= please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > For separating customizations into multiple files there is "initsplit" > > (https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/InitSplit). Maybe it's possible to > > include its functionality as part of Custom. > > I am sure we can implement the basic idea. What I wonder about is, > how to split the settings up? Based on what sort of plan or system? > > If we have a clear answer for that, it should be a straightforward > matter of doing work. --=20 =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8