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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:316816 Archived-At: native comp also fails on older and more complex lisp packages one example is the vm mail reader -- I've been using VM since 1990 and it remains the biggest reason I've disabled native-comp. --