From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: raman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 25.0.04: Feature Request: Make called-interactively-p's argument optional Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:46:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <2f8dfb88-8174-fa42-efd3-542605c881fd@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467769622 3045 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2016 01:47:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 01:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 06 03:46:57 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bKbvU-0000zh-Lf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2016 03:46:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58868 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKbvQ-0005CU-HR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:46:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKbvE-00059a-0q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:46:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKbvA-0004ZI-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]:34070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKbvA-0004Yu-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:46:36 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id h14so75055964pfe.1 for ; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=Vm25Est6LlsbJHkF/DzKBIoCGJFwEpPxrNvf4pZINiU=; b=Xlv/1l6GgXFtx9cPGM1moa0zbxNrcBSzD6+gxg8MUGJVOQDr62ZESFyZlyPIHoEu41 cRHdNCh0DHPuLc1zBl1FNgDx8ka6p4O2Ut8QkEfvoJABuQ2UVdtvL7xFwnhM7qhaQFbh W1HUwGIhQOvXsrSZu4Dqx81Xh2swJxykqaRnxTh+0Jaknx0O41KwCuI8nZ7zteUCgnNh UNxSN6CGJX2HQtbFNRZN4Mr5L9ZGPDalUnHe6lpIEg+qZSRtYuZrEKF+hVTjJ0Cs4RGG 3KZMDU2UlXuNNzBgFBB/NtGVfRzIwbBp3sHSTibIMUgMdXmZG5Y53zD+3XYvZ8eA3T9G SNvQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=Vm25Est6LlsbJHkF/DzKBIoCGJFwEpPxrNvf4pZINiU=; b=Bk45ivPz7yL7K69/l9to7SKTmbKgZ28CPX3TcPI/BbSSXltrItxFIpFxdetjCbVqrs dwb2mRzQjfnmfLrOq57R1VpEM32h1+2nKEu4xdlyBgwCitHVPYfvsky/xH48E5LvMSUt BLTGvUqm7W20UMhglFgQiiXk0s4XkqEUqEZV1ZeE/ZO95pmUHwGWKW7F5TpzZNFea8T7 8Dlk2FQ8PSYnoiZQ2baJ6mxMIuKfZ1blIItU5cJIfff+UCo+SNzLX9v+ZdjTT9lIXEw4 MOu0NP4/UTZwO1QpDbZF4bF3C3/yMwgSy889F1lC076wBWtPAGb6p417ElgVq9f0qQwb fI/g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLAgkJdZEYtpl2UqwqgqpcScttWHrwJUhUyRRF3RlAxwAbpGCvEHvhLHe0RjSxT97Bc X-Received: by 10.98.84.197 with SMTP id i188mr37387617pfb.43.1467769595315; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from raman-glaptop2 (c-73-170-121-60.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [73.170.121.60]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p4sm1353992pac.46.2016.07.05.18.46.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:46:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 05 Jul 2016 17:31:26 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.95 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205228 Archived-At: Here's one example of a large package (Emacspeak) and the number of times the equivalent of interactive-p is used: It would be interesting to validate the assertion "it's not used often" by examining other large packages as well. Note: ems-interactive-p is what I wrote when interactive-p got deprecated. grep ems-interactive-p *.el | wc 1607 4781 79080 Lines Of Elisp In Emacspeak: 18:44:33 raman-glaptop2 lisp $ wc *.el ... 79781 256614 2624155 total --