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[24.4.174.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm1084253pfk.73.2021.11.18.20.01.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 18 Nov 2021 20:01:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ee7cq2mu.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Fri, 19 Nov 2021 10:51:21 +0800") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034; envelope-from=raman@google.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1034.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -167 X-Spam_score: -16.8 X-Spam_bar: ---------------- X-Spam_report: (-16.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279702 Archived-At: So this takes away the primary reason why one spends all one's time in emacs; it's because all information in Emacs is manipulable as text and more importantly as structured information with a bit of work, eg specialized modes. This GStreamer widget that displays text takes Emacs down the deep dark rathole of "What You See Is All You Have" world down which many tools have gone, never to return. I sincerely hope Emacs doesn't go down that rathole as well. --=20 Thanks, --Raman(I Search, I Find, I Misplace, I Research) =817=A94 Id: kg:/m/0285kf1 =950=DC8