From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-2?B?QWRhbSBXb7Nr?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why Emacs should have a good web-browser Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:48:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ocrjl2r6.fsf@gmail.com> <87zlb2bwyj.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87bpnefl73.fsf@gmail.com> <1248196427.7551.38.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <87prbt954b.fsf@comcast.net> <87hbx5916k.fsf@comcast.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248212936 8739 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2009 21:48:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:48:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "Robert D. Crawford" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 21 23:48:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MTNCa-0000b7-EA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:48:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43997 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTNCZ-0001fj-P1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:48:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTNCU-0001fD-Kk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:48:42 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MTNCQ-0001cK-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:48:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38703 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MTNCQ-0001c8-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:48:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f219.google.com ([209.85.218.219]:54201) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MTNCQ-00076I-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:48:38 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz19 with SMTP id 19so3573407bwz.42 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:48:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:to:subject :references:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=liaHAbtztxEIzmkAiA413iSD939Xo7Uqh5nAXFIYscE=; b=cbqUeZObUJ7C2pfXq5lWxTKdvwjPDyNPdmgw6MpQK/W+2/nYubp8oFlApERAG+cE3s as0HRV+vly0f5FengYaRAZR5zvA4PvmmGwZUVotCt+eY54GVon1hXiRqWoF6ylcMVuuY 5YfIfjT+w0+lJgES3W4l8HHexw7b5hSvZHbiI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:to:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=YLVI4zTvz9Sa0YxLrwgteuxw1wXf7hbM7ftQlyMYpmEM1LXe76SK25N2CDOtgiuW1b 5xG+170YvhCJFPjUNmDwvx+HRhG/GqJ891GUb2STygLksx6XdFwvIZOVON4rXB7KVvWt D6t5jslWflnqWHGiRSn9eEH018po2x/U+Zu+U= Original-Received: by 10.103.1.17 with SMTP id d17mr70469mui.93.1248212914823; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from inferno.interq.pl (nat-4.interq.pl [83.2.136.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n7sm24390354mue.58.2009.07.21.14.48.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:48:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87hbx5916k.fsf@comcast.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.00 (Win32) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112958 Archived-At: >> Conkeror can be connected both ways with Emacs using mozrepl so I can >> imagine (but can't confirm) that one could implement a feature that >> would send website text content directly to emacspeak. > > If I understand what you are saying, the text would be sent to the > speech server but not be rendered in an emacs buffer. This will not > work as it would prevent scrolling through the text, killing/yanking, > sending URLs to other processes (mplayer and pdf2text come to mind). > I'm not even sure how that would work with emacspeak as it relies on > emacs to get its input... at least that is how I understand it. > I wrongly expressed what I had in mind by 'sending directly to emacspeak'. What I was trying to say is that the text could be pulled over from the browser to Emacs which would trigger emacspeak to read it. This of course was a mistake on my side as I have no experience with emacspeak and wrongly assumed how emacspeak is used and works. I stand corrected now but still never meant to imply that Emacs would be excluded from the browsing process.