From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: csant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [multi-tty] X or tty Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:39:40 +0200 Organization: csant.info Message-ID: References: <464CC097.10700@gnu.org> <85abw3up91.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <464DF9D8.7080001@lorentey.hu> <857ir5ubwv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: csant NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179520801 8250 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2007 20:40:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 20:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?utf-8?B?S8Ohcm9seSBMxZFyZW50ZXk=?= , emacs-devel To: "David Kastrup" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 18 22:39:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hp9Ev-0000mk-9V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 22:39:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp9Eu-0006my-OO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp9Eq-0006mj-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:39:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp9Ep-0006mB-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:39:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hp9Ep-0006m8-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:39:47 -0400 Original-Received: from csant.info ([69.36.171.12]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp9Eo-0007TE-1z; Fri, 18 May 2007 16:39:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fiore.malebolge (csant.info [69.36.171.12]) (authenticated bits=0) by csant.info (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l4IKdhWi010992; Fri, 18 May 2007 14:39:44 -0600 In-Reply-To: <857ir5ubwv.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.21 (Linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71341 Archived-At: > Funny. For me it is just the other way round. The normal case for me > is to run my emacs server in an X session. Now if I am somewhere on > the road and want to access my Emacs session at home via a modem > connection or similar, I have quite limited bandwidth. Even though > the ssh session I'll be using into my home computer forwards X > connections, I would not want to make use of it: it would be dead > slow. I am not completely sure that this is what you'd really have to expect. If you'd be ssh-ing without X forwarding, then this would be a no-brainer, but if you ssh with X forwarding, you probably are doing that... because you want to forward X? Not wanting X to be forwarded for one application (the emacsclient) sounds more like a the exception that you could overwrite with an explicit -t . >> Ideally, I'd like the client to inherit by default any `forced' >> flags set to the server, i.e. to start by default with -t when the >> server was deliberately started -nw in an environment that does have >> $DISPLAY set. This could be overwritten in the client with -d . > I think it would be unexpected. I am currently solving it with wrappers. But I am not convinced that if I am forcing the `main' emacs instance (the server) into deliberately ignoring X, I do not want this to be `inherited' by the clients. Right now it feels more, from the `dumb user's perspective, as `hrmph - didn't I say --no-window-system?' each time the emacsclient starts with X. /c