From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nick Andryshak Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: string> missing? Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:10:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87oakxkvqw.fsf@petton.fr> <83zj4grgkc.fsf@gnu.org> <87sia8n8b5.fsf@petton.fr> <87zj4gu821.fsf@gnu.org> <83sia8rdkm.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1433347887 24694 80.91.229.3 (3 Jun 2015 16:11:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 16:11:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 03 18:11:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0BG7-00043M-51 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 18:11:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36588 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0BG6-0003sp-Gn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:11:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60431) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0BFp-0003sk-8B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0BFl-0004IN-3b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vn0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22a]:43479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0BFk-0004I8-Un; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:10:53 -0400 Original-Received: by vnbf129 with SMTP id f129so1716056vnb.10; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=Hg56Ie3fUkJ043qUlpfIfN8LWj+fZw/QyZiRCJ31CAI=; b=hI16LkxJJIF4KpZhOviWzKj0BN3J6B7pz/FjywkzyWRoFD8df8hIIGwNk0MpV1Nnya l9JGGJCi9sG2BKIIMf3hMeWzf1KFgw/8VivnSktqZIa8oPa2KN3sa9mmZZ0sInG+hBzW MCkBiblh4SKdgTnXgM83yQnX/mHoXx5Ae0hSeT6Fyl+2k28K40qo2qwX2EInMYEm0Q3m 4yXSS/S8IJ1sVFIr0AJ0G6xVXv6udU2ArlZVs1a4f+zi039YrrQHJuD51cgkjDTb5Ple 9Eh2ZFeZ8knYzfhngS2ZjZaD+xWMePc7gN7wTJYeX+tt8GHvMN75tfo3ypUzLU8oWnv/ zsCg== X-Received: by 10.52.14.200 with SMTP id r8mr47930367vdc.79.1433347852312; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from NAND-LT ([47.19.134.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r7sm1218852vdw.23.2015.06.03.09.10.51 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:10:51 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <83sia8rdkm.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:186992 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Why would a language have '<' without '>'? > > Because it's enough? Should 'enough' be considered an acceptable standard? Quote, atom, eq, cons, car, cdr, and cond are 'enough', right? Should Emacs be reduced to this handful of functions? >> > With that argument, we'd also need string<= and string>=. >> >> Nothing wrong with that. > > That's just the tip of the iceberg. We have quite a few of other > similar situations in Emacs Lisp. I don't think adding in a few small functions to satisfy some inconsistencies makes the rest of that iceberg very menacing. I understand where you're coming from with this argument, but I don't really buy it. Emacs has matching functions for < and <=, why not string