From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daiki Ueno Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About the removal of pinentry.el Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2018 16:44:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87efn0f3uv.fsf@petton.fr> <83efn06nh5.fsf@gnu.org> <87po6k10v7.fsf@petton.fr> <838td77kec.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1wr1ppz.fsf@petton.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515512582 17529 195.159.176.226 (9 Jan 2018 15:43:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 15:43:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Nicolas Petton Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 09 16:42:58 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eYw3C-0003sB-0a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 16:42:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYw59-0001yk-Kj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:44:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYw4Z-0001yG-RV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:44:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYw4W-0002id-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:44:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57459) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eYw4W-0002iW-LP; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:44:16 -0500 Original-Received: from du-a.org ([219.94.251.20]:45200 helo=localhost.localdomain) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eYw4V-0004X0-JK; Tue, 09 Jan 2018 10:44:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k1wr1ppz.fsf@petton.fr> (Nicolas Petton's message of "Tue, 09 Jan 2018 08:00:24 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221761 Archived-At: Nicolas Petton writes: >> Once again, the NEWS entry doesn't mention pinentry-emacs at all. > > That's why I mentioned it here. My thought was that pinentry.el might > have been removed while it is still a useful package. > >> So I wonder what is it that I'm missing here. > > I think that pinentry.el is still useful today for pinentry-emacs, when > configuring gpg-agent to use it. It still works, but I don't think it's useful today, given that epa-pinentry-mode 'loopback exists. I would suggest the GnuPG upstream to drop pinentry-emacs and any support for it in GnuPG itself. Nevertheless, I admit I misremembered as if the package was added in Emacs 26; it's was actually added in 25. So it might be safer to restore it under obsolete, although it is also available on ELPA: http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/pinentry.html >> AFAIU, the NEWS entry just says that pinentry.el and the related >> features are not needed with GnuPG >= 2.1 > > Maybe pinentry-emacs can work without pinentry.el, and I'm not aware of > that? No. Regards, -- Daiki Ueno