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From: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Project out of sources compilation
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:47:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o2k67dhhw6mrf6gjcq4llmpcf4qciwvtngxhh2bz64cquryp3r@b75ez67guyzq> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ttl5w0mr.fsf@gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 12:36:44PM +0100, Augusto Stoffel wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 14:12, Ergus wrote:
>
>> 5. Project local variables (a man can dream, a man can dream)
>>
>> There are some situations where we want to have variables shared among a
>> project. (i.e some output directory, logging option when executing,
>> flags, environment variables).
>>
>> At the moment these options work partially by using directory
>> variables. If we have the concept of a "project", maybe it is logical to
>> have some sort of project scope concept, specially for projects sharing
>> a common root.
>
>For Emacs variables, why you think dir-local variables only works
>“partially”?
>
>As to environment variables, they are generally assumed to be global in
>Emacs and it goes a bit against the grain to make them buffer-local /
>project dependent.  Nonetheless, there are packages for that (one is
>buffer-env, which I wrote) and they work fine (at least for me).
>
They work for one directory, but when the project includes multiple
roots (project-external-roots) the variables are somehow missing just
when jumping with xref to a definition.

However, we can ignore this as I mentioned before.

>> For example vs-code adds a subdirectory with project variables that the
>> user (but also any plugin) can refer to in the project's scope.
>
>Is this meant to store editor configuration or environment variables?  I
>guess turning VSCode configuration variables into Emacs alternatives
>would be tricky. 

No please. No interaction-importing from other editors will be
maintainable in the long path.

> But if this is about env vars and the directory
>organization is sensible, then one could configure buffer-env to
>interoperate.

This is it. The idea is to extend project.el in order to bring more
project-oriented features.

Lets say:

The user (or project.el backend) could specify the `build` directory and
the environment that needs to be set to execute the program from the
build or bin directory.

So with a simple modification of dir-locals.el the user may be capable
to run M-x compile (or project-compile), M-x gud-gdb... or being more
ambitious M-x project-generate (to call autogen.sh and ./configure or
cmake depending of the project-backend)

For sure we wont cover the 100% of the projects, but wuth automake and
autotools we will be very close (and in the future someone could add
other backends for it)







  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-17 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4wwljrdnra3bsloehioa46y24ozxajajmvf2elvskxxq3mhtg2.ref@pyv2z5snot6h>
2024-03-16 13:12 ` Project out of sources compilation Ergus
2024-03-16 16:50   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-03-16 19:00     ` Ergus
2024-03-16 20:56       ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-03-17  2:53   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-03-17  7:22     ` Ergus
2024-03-17  8:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-17 17:33         ` Ergus
2024-03-17 17:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-17 17:58             ` Ergus
2024-03-17 11:36   ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-03-17 17:47     ` Ergus [this message]
2024-03-19 18:36       ` Ergus
2024-03-27 16:38         ` [PATCH] " Ergus
2024-03-31  2:41           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-03-31 21:07             ` Ergus
2024-04-01  7:49               ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2024-04-01 13:52                 ` Ergus
2024-04-01 15:09                   ` Dirk-Jan C. Binnema
2024-04-01 17:18                     ` Ergus
2024-04-02 23:23                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-03 19:47                     ` Ergus
2024-04-06  2:05                     ` Ergus
2024-04-14  1:44                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-16 14:56                         ` Ergus
2024-04-22 17:05                         ` Ergus
2024-04-22 18:48                           ` Ergus
2024-04-22 21:20                             ` Mohsin Kaleem
2024-04-23 15:17                               ` Ergus
2024-04-23 19:26                                 ` Mohsin Kaleem
2024-04-26  0:47                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-04-02 21:39               ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-02 22:43                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-04-05 21:40                   ` Richard Stallman
2024-04-03 10:40                 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 11:45                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 13:31                     ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 14:11                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 15:00                         ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 15:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 17:27                             ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 18:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-03 19:08                                 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-03 20:12                                   ` Ergus
2024-04-04  5:26                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04  9:59                                       ` Ergus
2024-04-04 11:59                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 12:34                                           ` Ergus
2024-04-04 13:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 14:27                                               ` Ergus
2024-04-04 14:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 18:15                                                   ` Ergus
2024-04-04 18:56                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04 20:16                                                   ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2024-04-05  5:11                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-04  5:07                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <87jzlefgi9.fsf@dick>
2024-04-03 18:44                                 ` Konstantin Kharlamov

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