From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: First draft of the Emacs website Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <87io4lem98.fsf@petton.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449074242 19943 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2015 16:37:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 16:37:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 02 17:37:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AOy-000815-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 17:37:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59172 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AOt-0001eB-3o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:37:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47113) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AOd-0001ce-Ao for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:36:48 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AOZ-0004iX-Qv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:36:47 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AOZ-0004iB-KQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 11:36:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a4AOX-0007OR-MQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 17:36:41 +0100 Original-Received: from c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net ([68.39.146.59]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 17:36:41 +0100 Original-Received: from random832 by c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 02 Dec 2015 17:36:41 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-68-39-146-59.hsd1.in.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.3-7 (Linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195761 Archived-At: On 2015-11-28, Nicolas Petton wrote: > http://nicolas-petton.fr/ressources/emacs-website/ I did a test of disabling CSS and Javascript to see how well it degrades (also tested in lynx), and noticed the following artifacts: - Caused by non-hidden "nav-mobile" section: - Two copies of the Emacs logo and page heading - Unsightly "nav-toggle" button element. - As a decorative image, the Emacs logo and screenshot should have a blank alt text. Saying "Emacs" and "Screenshot" doesn't provide any accessibility benefit, though maybe the screenshot could instead have a longer description. - "Learn More" link appears inline directly after the screenshot, and is useless without javascript. - Suggestions for better semantic markup: - Use an unordered list element instead of a sequence of inline links for the navigation and the download link list. - Use kbd rather than code elements for M-x instructions. - FSF logo alt text should be Free Software Foundation. - FSF logo is completely invisible on a white background. - "Verbatim" copying permission statement is non-free.