From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Further CC-mode changes Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:24:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <53632C6F.5070903@dancol.org> <20140511211351.GC2759@acm.acm> <536FEA43.5090402@dancol.org> <20140516175226.GB3267@acm.acm> <537653A0.2070109@dancol.org> <20140518213331.GB2577@acm.acm> <20140912235948.GA4045@acm.acm> <20140913151055.GB3431@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410813141 14219 80.91.229.3 (15 Sep 2014 20:32:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 15 22:32:14 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XTcwX-0003YC-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:32:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33925 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTcwW-0003aE-78 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:32:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTcw5-0003Wf-QO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:31:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTcvy-0001dm-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59879) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTcvy-0001cp-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:31:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XTcpO-0003Zk-T5; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:24:51 -0400 X-Spook: broadside Bin Laden munitions number key rail gun bank X-Ran: %(q4;=nk'hl,S(`Dcw*}aO_) (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sat, 13 Sep 2014 15:10:55 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174343 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> It's work I did, pro bono. Just enjoy it. > > No, you haven't. What's the equivalent of `syntax-propertize' in XEmacs, > or an old GNU Emacs? "Somebody" (tm) has to write a compatibility macro > which will look something like this: No, nobody has to do that. You've got limited time to work on cc-mode, and more issues than you can solve. If you choose to spend some of that time supporting old Emacs versions (and XEmacs by now is a very old Emacs version), then that is reducing the amount of time you can spend on eg improving C++11 support (to pick a non-random example). IMO this is a clear loss, so I hope you will reconsider your position on that. I imagine Stefan is one of the few people capable of modernizing/simplifying/standardizing cc-mode, so FWIW I strongly encourage you to accept the offer.