From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: font-lock-negation-char-face Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:17:42 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87oebnd0io.fsf@rocksteady.printf.se> <01c552eb$Blat.v2.4$45f05e20@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115497936 24000 80.91.229.2 (7 May 2005 20:32:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 07 22:32:10 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUVxm-000842-6P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 22:31:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUW5l-0000nK-5O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:40:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DUW4U-0000Zr-66 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:38:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DUW4S-0000ZM-Qa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:38:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DUW2V-0008QH-FA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:36:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.235] (helo=pfepa.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DUVpc-0006ZB-RN; Sat, 07 May 2005 16:23:25 -0400 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepa.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AAE447FE05; Sat, 7 May 2005 22:17:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <01c552eb$Blat.v2.4$45f05e20@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 07 May 2005 12:57:06 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:36836 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:36836 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> From: Henrik Enberg >> Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 08:15:59 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Stefan Monnier writes: >> >> > Let me just say that I find this new "feature" dubious. >> > - it makes things even more "angry fruit salad" and thus requires >> > yet more tweaking to make the text legible again. >> > - it's unclear that these specific chars are particular sources of errors. >> > - why not have a more generic name like font-lock-important-detail-face, >> > so it's at least not so absurdly narrow-scoped. >> >> Indeed, I find that it makes my code much harder to read. The choice of >> a bold face as default is especially bad. And as you say, I don't >> really think people write !foo erroneously all that often. > > Let me join the choir and say that the effect of this change is > unpleasant at best, IMO. I think this new feature should be at least > turned off by default, if not removed. And it makes wrong highlights too, e.g. the '!' in the following line: xassert (s != NULL); When was this new feature discussed? -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk