From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CEDET merge question Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:11:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eiql2w5s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252397500 15975 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2009 08:11:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 08:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Tom Tromey , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 08 10:11:33 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MkvnV-00069u-RJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 10:11:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42927 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkvnV-0000Fq-3u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkvnP-0000Eq-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MkvnK-0000CO-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52573 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MkvnK-0000CH-Dk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:5607) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkvnJ-00032M-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:18 -0400 Original-Received: from proxy2.bredband.net ([195.54.101.72]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MkvnI-0000nO-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:11:17 -0400 Original-Received: from iph1.telenor.se (195.54.127.132) by proxy2.bredband.net (7.3.140.3) id 4A8FF7140061A01D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:11:09 +0200 X-SMTPAUTH-B2: joakvero X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AitcAP2tpUpT44qWPGdsb2JhbACKD5ElAQEBATe+HoQYBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,351,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="42474587" Original-Received: from ua-83-227-138-150.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO exodia) ([83.227.138.150]) by iph1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2009 10:11:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (chopper.lan [192.168.200.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by exodia (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n888B1lv022132 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:11:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eiql2w5s.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:28:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Operating-System: by mx20.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115123 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > I have a question about CEDET that hopefully someone on this list, who > has more experience using CEDET than me, can help answer (I've been > corresponding with Eric Ludlam, but he's gone on vacation). > > The Semantic parser appears to have two major "back-ends", bovine and > wisent, which are used to generate Semantic tags. Does anyone know how > crucial these packages are, and whether one or the other (or both) be > dropped or somehow trimmed down? > > I ask because the CEDET merge already involves an uncomfortably large > amount of code, and it's rather dismaying to see these two big code > trees "embedded" in subdirectories of Semantic. (Wisent, for instance, > appears to be an entire Elisp reimplementation of Bison...) > Emacs hackers would still need easy access to these tools. Maybe this is a further case for including something like Tom Tromeys ELPA in Emacs? If we had something like that by default it wouldnt be a big deal to distribute tools like these to Emacs hackers. > > (The CVS branch I'm using for the CEDET merge is not yet suitable for > general testing; I'll inform the list when it's ready.) > -- Joakim Verona