* more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
@ 2011-07-31 19:56 raman
2011-08-02 13:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: raman @ 2011-07-31 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel; +Cc: emacs-devel
I also have openssl installed on the Jaunty box. I'll probably
upgrade this machine in the next few weeks, since it's now
impossible to install any packages on Jaunty -- but it would
still be nice if smtpmail worked like the tls.el library, which
uses either gnutls-cli or openssl depending on what is
available. At the time, I had intentionally removed gnutls-bin
package because gnuuutls-cli was breaking emacs/W3, --- that is a
problem that very few emacs users would care about --- but
unfortunately I happen to be one of those who still depends on
Emacs/W3
--Raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
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* Re: more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
2011-07-31 19:56 more on smtpmail / gmail failure: raman
@ 2011-08-02 13:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-08-02 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: raman; +Cc: emacs-devel
raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> writes:
> I also have openssl installed on the Jaunty box. I'll probably
> upgrade this machine in the next few weeks, since it's now
> impossible to install any packages on Jaunty -- but it would
> still be nice if smtpmail worked like the tls.el library, which
> uses either gnutls-cli or openssl depending on what is
> available. At the time, I had intentionally removed gnutls-bin
> package because gnuuutls-cli was breaking emacs/W3, --- that is a
> problem that very few emacs users would care about --- but
> unfortunately I happen to be one of those who still depends on
> Emacs/W3
So... what are your starttls settings?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
@ 2011-07-31 19:44 raman
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From: raman @ 2011-07-31 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel
Clarification, I do have external starttls support, and Iam able
to send email via the older smtpmail.el -- that's how Iam sending
these messages.
I am writing from an older ubuntu (jaunty)box where the starttls
library is older than what --with-starttls in emacs 24 needs.
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
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* more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
@ 2011-07-31 15:15 raman
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From: raman @ 2011-07-31 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel
Clarification, I do have external starttls support, and Iam able
to send email via the older smtpmail.el -- that's how Iam sending
these messages.
I am writing from an older ubuntu (jaunty)box where the starttls
library is older than what --with-starttls in emacs 24 needs.
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
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* more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
@ 2011-07-31 15:14 raman
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From: raman @ 2011-07-31 15:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Christoph Scholtes, emacs-devel
This is on gnu/Linux ubuntu Jaunty. I do have starttls configured
to use external starttls support, sorry my earlier message caused
confusion when I said Emacs was built with --without-starttls.
This is being sent with emacs 24, but with the older smtpmail.el
from somewhere in May/June.
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
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* more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
@ 2011-07-31 15:13 raman
2011-07-31 15:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: raman @ 2011-07-31 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel
Clarification, I do have external starttls support, and Iam able
to send email via the older smtpmail.el -- that's how Iam sending
these messages.
I am writing from an older ubuntu (jaunty)box where the starttls
library is older than what --with-starttls in emacs 24 needs.
--
Best Regards,
--raman
--
Best Regards,
--raman
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* Re: more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
2011-07-31 15:13 raman
@ 2011-07-31 15:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 19:43 ` T.V. Raman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-31 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: raman; +Cc: emacs-devel
raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> writes:
> Clarification, I do have external starttls support, and Iam able
> to send email via the older smtpmail.el -- that's how Iam sending
> these messages.
What does
(executable-find "gnutls-cli")
return for you?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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2011-07-31 15:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-07-31 19:43 ` T.V. Raman
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From: T.V. Raman @ 2011-07-31 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, emacs-devel
Aha That returns nil (executable-find "gnutls-cli")
but I have starttls installed -- which is what I've been using
for smtpmail -- as well as other things like Jabber that need
tls support.
--
Best Regards,
--raman
On 7/31/11, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> raman <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Clarification, I do have external starttls support, and Iam able
>> to send email via the older smtpmail.el -- that's how Iam sending
>> these messages.
>
> What does
>
> (executable-find "gnutls-cli")
>
> return for you?
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
> bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
>
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* more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
@ 2011-07-31 14:32 T. V. Raman
2011-07-31 14:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 14:41 ` Christoph Scholtes
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From: T. V. Raman @ 2011-07-31 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
[-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --]
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii, Size: 492 bytes --]
Attaching smtp trace. Note:Emacs is built without starttls
support on this machine -- perhaps that matters.
220 mx.google.com ESMTP b4sm4419441pba.75
250-mx.google.com at your service, [71.202.188.217]
250-SIZE 35882577
250-8BITMIME
250-STARTTLS
250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Process smtpmail deleted
MAIL FROM:<tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> SIZE=523
530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. b4sm4419441pba.75
QUIT
221 2.0.0 closing connection b4sm4419441pba.75\r\x05ë-Eè\x1aÛ+jf§
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* Re: more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
2011-07-31 14:32 T. V. Raman
@ 2011-07-31 14:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 14:41 ` Christoph Scholtes
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-07-31 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tv.raman.tv; +Cc: emacs-devel
"T. V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> writes:
> Attaching smtp trace. Note:Emacs is built without starttls
> support on this machine -- perhaps that matters.
Uhm... why?
> 220 mx.google.com ESMTP b4sm4419441pba.75.
> 250-mx.google.com at your service, [71.202.188.217].
> 250-SIZE 35882577.
> 250-8BITMIME.
> 250-STARTTLS.
> 250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES.
>
> Process smtpmail deleted
> MAIL FROM:<tv.raman.tv@gmail.com> SIZE=523.
> 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. b4sm4419441pba.75.
> QUIT.
> 221 2.0.0 closing connection b4sm4419441pba.75.--
If your Emacs doesn't have STARTTLS support, and you don't have external
TLS support available, either, you can't send email via an SMTP server
that requires you to use STARTTLS.
I don't think there's anything Emacs can do about that. Other than tell
the user "install gnutls-cli already, then".
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: more on smtpmail / gmail failure:
2011-07-31 14:32 T. V. Raman
2011-07-31 14:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-07-31 14:41 ` Christoph Scholtes
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Scholtes @ 2011-07-31 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
On 7/31/2011 8:32 AM, T. V. Raman wrote:
> Attaching smtp trace. Note:Emacs is built without starttls
> support on this machine -- perhaps that matters.
Are you running on Windows or GNU/Linux?
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