From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: Re: org-export raises stringp nil error Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:15:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87ip539io1.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> <87zjye96ph.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87vc928kcm.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <83sj46z468.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362734151 11359 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2013 09:15:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bzg@gnu.org, lele@metapensiero.it, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Leo Liu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 08 10:16:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UDtPQ-0002tS-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:16:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48437 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDtP4-0005HO-7U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:15:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46279) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDtOv-0005D2-Lv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:15:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDtOr-0005OM-GP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:15:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.11]:64822) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UDtOh-0005KT-PY; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:15:27 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx1-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1631295C4B; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:15:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF2) Original-Received: from mf2.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf2.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vOjrY9W-s92u; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:15:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mta.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0574500D5; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:15:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C473A4E2DB9; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:15:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at verona Original-Received: from mta.verona.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (exodia.verona.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PkPb0VUHcGZ9; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:15:07 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from chopper.vpn.verona.se (unknown [192.168.201.18]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950234E2109; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:15:07 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <83sj46z468.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Mar 2013 10:28:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Mac OS X 10.x X-Received-From: 213.80.101.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157592 gmane.emacs.orgmode:67916 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Leo Liu >> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:16:57 +0800 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, >> Lele Gaifax >> >> Bundling [org-mode] in emacs doesn't help anybody. > > You never had to work for an organization whose network is closed to > outside world, did you? In those situations, using package.el to > seamlessly fetch unbundled packages is impossible, which makes > building a full and functional Emacs a pain if important packages are > left out of the bundle. > Just a small reminder of the idea Stefan sometimes drops in these discussions: - Emacs "trunk" could be stripped of all but the bare essentials to achieve bootstrap. - distribution tarballs could be made from trunk+elpa. Since I dont do releases for Emacs I dont get to have an opinion on the matter, but if pressed, I would say this idea has considerable merit. -- Joakim Verona