From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: imagemagic in image-mode and image-dired-thumbnail-mode? 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X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161885 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > I've seen (unanswered) crash reports related to ImageMagick. Eg > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=8341 > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11701 Well, those are PDF-related, and PDF is on the list of stuff imagemagick shouldn't handle. > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11831 Man, that's a bad bug report. Impossible to reproduce. > And as you know, ImageMagick support for animated/multi-frame images is > broken > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7978 Yup. > And likewise for metadata in general > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?include=subject%3Amagick;package=emacs > > And no-one seems interested in working on any of these issues, so IMO we > should stick with the more tested image libraries as default for the > formats that they handle. But since the other formats don't do scaling, they're aren't very user-friendly. Nobody wants to look at a tiny corner of a picture. (Except under special circumstances.) The default of all the Emacs image-viewing modes should be to rescale down to the frame or window size. And only imagemagick does that. But, yes, it's problematic that nobody has stepped up to the plate in chasing down imagemagick bugs lately. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/