From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ami Fischman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Various simple.el patches Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:38:13 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200305132031.h4DKVp58013718@rum.cs.yale.edu> <84llx9hhwp.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <20030514124245.GA24487@gnu.org> <843cjhtytp.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <20030514144839.GA6241@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052931097 1202 80.91.224.249 (14 May 2003 16:51:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 16:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed May 14 18:51:36 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FzRy-0000Cq-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 18:49:54 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19FzZQ-0003iF-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 18:57:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FzL5-0003hR-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:42:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FzIN-00032b-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:39:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FzHj-0002lV-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19FzHJ-0002Y5-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 May 2003 12:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FzFg-0007Ui-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 18:37:12 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19FzF4-0007R3-00 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 18:36:34 +0200 Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody Mail-Followup-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.090017 (Oort Gnus v0.17) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cbfCv0OEBOBJJmsmRzIBNtbqpNw= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13863 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13863 Miles Bader writes: > The idea that `oh, in _this_ situation, it works _backwards_,' not because it > actually makes much sense, but (apparently) simply because that particular > case is otherwise a no-op seems like a quick trip to a totally confusing user > interface. Not to mention that if point is 10 lines above the EOB, and user wants to kill all remaining text, user can now just hold down ^K until emacs beeps, but in the new system, that'll devour everything in the buffer (_above_ the original point, as well). I think. -- Ami Fischman usenet@fischman.org