Deprecated C-x bindings

Deprecated C-x bindings

[Romain Francoise]

The following bindings were marked as deprecated in Emacs 20:

 C-x /  (point-to-register-compatibility-binding)
 C-x j  (jump-to-register-compatibility-binding)
 C-x x  (copy-to-register-compatibility-binding)
 C-x g  (insert-register-compatibility-binding)

There are equivalent bindings in the C-x r map, which is the logical
place for register commands.

We might want to use these keys for more interesting things in the
future, so now (before the release) would be a good time to reclaim
them.

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Re: Deprecated C-x bindings

[Kim F. Storm]

Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com> writes:

> The following bindings were marked as deprecated in Emacs 20:
>
>  C-x /  (point-to-register-compatibility-binding)
>  C-x j  (jump-to-register-compatibility-binding)
>  C-x x  (copy-to-register-compatibility-binding)
>  C-x g  (insert-register-compatibility-binding)
>
> There are equivalent bindings in the C-x r map, which is the logical
> place for register commands.
>
> We might want to use these keys for more interesting things in the
> future, so now (before the release) would be a good time to reclaim
> them.

Agree 100%!!

Removing them now will give users of those bindings a couple of years
(using emacs 22) to teach their fingers the new bindings before we use
them for something else in emacs 23.

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Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

Re: Deprecated C-x bindings

[Richard Stallman]

    We might want to use these keys for more interesting things in the
    future, so now (before the release) would be a good time to reclaim
    them.

Does anyone object?

Re: Deprecated C-x bindings

[Kim F. Storm]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     We might want to use these keys for more interesting things in the
>     future, so now (before the release) would be a good time to reclaim
>     them.
>
> Does anyone object?

Nobody has objected - shall I remove the bindings?

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Re: Deprecated C-x bindings

[Richard Stallman]

    Nobody has objected - shall I remove the bindings?

Yes, please do.

Re: Deprecated C-x bindings

[Kim F. Storm]

Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com> writes:

> The following bindings were marked as deprecated in Emacs 20:
>
>  C-x /  (point-to-register-compatibility-binding)
>  C-x j  (jump-to-register-compatibility-binding)
>  C-x x  (copy-to-register-compatibility-binding)
>  C-x g  (insert-register-compatibility-binding)
>
> There are equivalent bindings in the C-x r map, which is the logical
> place for register commands.
>
> We might want to use these keys for more interesting things in the
> future, so now (before the release) would be a good time to reclaim
> them.

Thanks.  I have removed those bindings.

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Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

forward-page binding and page-movement doc [was: Deprecated C-x bindings]

[Drew Adams]

> > The following bindings were marked as deprecated in Emacs 20:
> >
> >  C-x /  (point-to-register-compatibility-binding)
> >  C-x j  (jump-to-register-compatibility-binding)
> >  C-x x  (copy-to-register-compatibility-binding)
> >  C-x g  (insert-register-compatibility-binding)
> >
> > There are equivalent bindings in the C-x r map, which is
> > the logical place for register commands.
> >
> > We might want to use these keys for more interesting
> > things in the future, so now (before the release) would
> > be a good time to reclaim them.
>
> Thanks.  I have removed those bindings.

BTW, for after the release, I wonder if we shouldn't also free up `C-x ['
and `C-x ]'?

1. They are not particularly handy for repeated movement (except via `z z
z').

2. `C-s C-q C-l' (`C-s C-s...') is quicker for repeated movement among
pages. (I always use that.)

3. The use of `C-u C-]' is good, to move forward N pages, but that's
probably almost as useful without any binding (using `C-u M-x
forward-page').

Just a thought.


Independent of this, I think the Emacs manual should explicitly mention
(remind people of) `C-s C-q C-l' (`C-s C-s...'). It mentions using `C-q C-l'
to insert a page break, but it doesn't mention searching for page breaks.
This should be obvious, but a reminder wouldn't hurt.

Re: forward-page binding and page-movement doc

[Stefan Monnier]

> BTW, for after the release, I wonder if we shouldn't also free up `C-x ['
> and `C-x ]'?
> 1. They are not particularly handy for repeated movement (except via `z z z').

It'd be pretty natural to extend C-x ] to C-x ] ] ] ] ] ] ...
Martin Blais wrote repeatable.el which does just that (and also allows
C-x ] ] ] [ [ [ ] ...).


        Stefan

Re: forward-page binding and page-movement doc [was: Deprecated C-x bindings]

[Stuart D. Herring]

> BTW, for after the release, I wonder if we shouldn't also free up `C-x ['
> and `C-x ]'?
>
> 1. They are not particularly handy for repeated movement (except via `z z
> z').

When using these commands, I typically browse by pages, pausing briefly to
look at each one to see if it's the one that I want; I can easily have
already typed the next C-x during that time, and then C-g if I don't want
to go anywhere.

> 2. `C-s C-q C-l' (`C-s C-s...') is quicker for repeated movement among
> pages. (I always use that.)

That's not equivalent; from the 21.3 docs I see

forward-page is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `textmodes/page'.
(forward-page &optional COUNT)

Move forward to page boundary.  With arg, repeat, or go back if negative.
A page boundary is any line whose beginning matches the regexp
`page-delimiter'.

> 3. The use of `C-u C-]' is good, to move forward N pages, but that's
> probably almost as useful without any binding (using `C-u M-x
> forward-page').

As there is no `goto-page', it seems relatively likely to want to do M-<
C-u nnn C-x ].  I'd rather not extend that key sequence farther.

Davis

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Re: forward-page binding and page-movement doc [was: Deprecated C-x bindings]

[Richard Stallman]

I do not want to eliminate C-x [ and C-x ].  They are useful commands
and go with other page commands.

Thanks.

RE: forward-page binding and page-movement doc [was: Deprecated C-x bindings]

[Drew Adams]

> I do not want to eliminate C-x [ and C-x ].  They are useful commands
> and go with other page commands.

Any chance that searching for `C-l' (`C-s C-q C-l') could also be mentioned
in the manual, in the same node that inserting `C-l' and `C-x [' are
discussed?