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[69.165.165.189]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x28sm359913qtv.8.2020.12.15.19.13.55 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 19:13:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:01:42 -0500") Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::72f; envelope-from=fitzsim@fitzsim.org; helo=mail-qk1-x72f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260944 Archived-At: Hi Stefan, Stefan Monnier writes: [...] > Also, the proposed bundling doesn't let Emacs's own code depend on GNU > ELPA code, so it still wouldn't allow us to use `dash.el` inside Emacs. > > I don't see any need to "solve" or discuss those issues before we can > bundle packages. Nice work reorganizing GNU ELPA. As part of my work on bug#43566, I'd like to add a test to test/lisp/net/ntlm-tests.el that depends on the GNU ELPA packages ws-server and url-http-ntlm. I'd prefer the test to be in core rather than GNU ELPA, since it's specifically to prevent ntlm.el regressions introduced by core changes (e.g., url). Can you suggest a way to accomplish this? Thanks, Thomas