From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Neat features in Eclipse editor Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:25:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <873aqia0eh.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <873aqiw4xm.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208609058 30764 80.91.229.12 (19 Apr 2008 12:44:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 12:44:18 +0000 (UTC) To: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 19 14:44:50 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jmqfr-0003jO-Aj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:30:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JmqfC-000072-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:30:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmqf6-0008Vy-KH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:29:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmqf2-0008SC-2H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:29:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jmqf1-0008S5-SV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:29:51 -0400 Original-Received: from iwfs.imcode.com ([82.115.149.64] helo=gate.verona.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jmqew-0000Jc-LB; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:29:47 -0400 Original-Received: from chopper (IDENT:1005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate.verona.se (8.13.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id m3IDTgVZ005071; Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:29:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:50:40 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95447 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Imagine several Emacs frames that are laid out next to each other, for > instance like this: > > +---+-------------+ > | 1 | 2 | > | | | > | | | > +---+-------------+ > | 3 | > +-----------------+ > > Ok, but why can't 1, 2 and 3 be windows? > That would be a much simpler change than adding a new > kind of entity. > > What usage scenario makes it necessary for these to be more > than single windows? > > I am not saying there isn't one. I'm asking to look the intended > usage in order to see which solutions are adequate. 1,2,3 can be windows if they have special properties. Heres a simpler example I wanted to code today, but failed because I couldnt find a suitable Emacs feature(maybe there is one) - 1,2 are normal Emacs windows - 3 is a dedicated emacs window, containing a special "frame status" buffer. This buffer is like a mode-line, but contains mode-line entries like date-time, that I dont want to have in every window mode-line. - I dont want other-window to enter window 3, ever. - I dont want delete-other-windows to delete window 3, ever. The ECB basically lets you create windows like 3 above. It does this by using advice on Emacs primitives heavily. Is this example clearer? Are there existing Emacs primitives to achieve this? -- Joakim Verona