From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Seeking a "Patch Champion" Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:14:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8737q9h83r.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461608084 16346 80.91.229.3 (25 Apr 2016 18:14:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 25 20:14:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aul1g-0006Mn-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:14:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aul1f-0006P4-Nz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:14:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aul1Q-0006M1-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:14:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aul1N-0005jD-MN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:14:12 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60804) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aul1N-0005j9-Fi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aul1K-00063P-3u; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:14:08 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUhHUgBAAQmPF0LDBcF BQoCAgantL4sLcMDAAACRElEQVQ4jVWTQXPjIAyFNeDd82a6vjMivVNj39si7vUY3TtJk///E/YB drol48mYD70nCZlOp9N6Otao9RlVi1ADeoART/2pAtzvz98xfWlZSCvQjexDUfUBzjpFetnNILMq pFQRsfnf7uURgFUiPQOcjTBZDTH3/VEl0g3AnT8cEVky9FKTVU0z3bb7/TNPROxzToFyI2WmC0Mq MRknKq8x/moemukLUsyO2MKQvfHYFUFW1eMCA+ONYQBo4XwFCeYA3JZlnhtY6GoawFl2MU1sht2j mvsAi2gcxIy3AqECUKM3wvGmNbErIGj7NSNvgND2PRKsWQHc1nVU7NrAke0EIHvluCa1DqeHp6hb RERpld/r+gRwb8WsWzJOq7vsAPku68noBk04P8A1Bt9avrGbBR0pO7jJ+6AYBU3OikSR1Dwu/Kxm qfVKcAsASG070aKv/q3eXWogRcgB2EjklnXcZkmTG76Bl8kuGAwoBK4ebdEnu5wGTEwxLqLwDtIA wPe+UCOj66WB+QcAsrlFxPgTYL+UHVweoF7IslunFnHp9y2GbPkBfCtaJAztr5sAeNfnGC/1Ttt5 eFx5jthesJOMPYRqVg7dzKVlGfa6O/A5tiuTLNGZYSdoiS9Dt8A7PqzDnT68DG0uYsbn4sNwgD9e fJghM1e9KZy/QXJhgB3uQCVhrHbw5PGCLGKdAZX/QB/aYzgmnh9gNvXDyBBCmhjIHfzl+I4ApKQl 1Ss8wGjsPLk+PLHG+r2Jo6nyvcT6KVAH8g+Td/qhuR9GIwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== In-Reply-To: <8737q9h83r.fsf@red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:11:04 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203299 Archived-At: Karl Fogel writes: >>But the lost patch situation in Emacs is a genuine problem, and one that >>I think may be disencouraging new contributors. Here's what I think >>should happen: >> >>1) Whenever somebody posts a patch to emacs-devel, and you don't feel >>like applying it at once, tell them "send this via `M-x >>report-emacs-bug', otherwise it'll never be applied". >> >>2) People interested in herding patches should start using debbugs-gnu. >>I've now added another command to make this easier -- just say `M-x >>debbugs-gnu-patches', and you'll get a nice list of all the bug reports >>that contain patches. (Or at least the ones that have been marked as >>such, but that's pretty much all of them...) > > These two ideas would add burden to the patch submitter, I think, > unlike John's proposal. The first one is an added burden to the submitter, but the second one isn't something the submitter has to deal with at all -- it's for the cat herders. I mean, patch managers... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no