From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:08:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87sigu2o8t.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417788569 10755 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 14:09:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 14:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rasmus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 15:09:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtZR-0001tT-4A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:09:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50595 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtZQ-0007ZX-F0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 09:09:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43359) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtZH-0007ZM-LO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 09:09:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtZB-0008DW-8X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 09:09:11 -0500 Original-Received: from mx6.bahnhof.se ([213.80.101.16]:46013) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwtZB-0008DD-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 09:09:05 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (mf.bahnhof.se [213.80.101.20]) by mx6-reinject (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950F646C46; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:09:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at bahnhof.se (MF2) Original-Received: from mf2.bahnhof.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mf2.bahnhof.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xWHLv2F9ld8K; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:08:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mta.verona.se (h-235-102.a149.priv.bahnhof.se [85.24.235.102]) by mf2.bahnhof.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4EC9401C6; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:08:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99605273FA; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 14:08:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at verona.se Original-Received: from mta.verona.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (exodia.verona.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2rXr7Vj1_u0e; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:08:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from exodia.verona.se (www.verona.se [192.168.200.15]) by mta.verona.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835C75273F9; Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:08:43 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87sigu2o8t.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:57:22 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 213.80.101.16 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178921 Archived-At: Rasmus writes: > Hi, > > "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > >> [...] we have agreed on asciidoc as a new master format. > > This seems nothing short of bizarre. > Did you, by chance, hear of this new mode called Org? > > 1. My Emacs does not feature an "asciidoc-mode", and it seems I would need > an extra binary to export out of asciidoc to "richly linked hypertext". > ox.el, the Org export framework, is written in Emacs-Lisp. > 2. Judging from a sample on the Asciidoc-website, formatting asciidoc-txt > seems painful. E.g. a headline of length N seems to require 2=C3=97N > characters and two lines whereas an Org headline requires N + > HEADLINE-LEVEL + 1 characters and a single line. Delimiters in > asciidoc seems overloaded, e.g. =3D=3D=E2=8B=AF=3D is both the beginni= ng of a table > and an example block. > 3. Org already supports export of texinfo, txt, html, LaTeX, odt, & man > out of the box. Asciidoc seems to support html... texinfo isnt too bad. If we for some reason absolutely must change the format, org is the only sane alternative, really. > > =E2=80=94Rasmus --=20 Joakim Verona