From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:47:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eg51ng4r.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <87k2djwumn.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83h98nidvd.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg3rvtsf.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83k2dihpm9.fsf@gnu.org> <8760p2wzgj.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <838ttyhhzu.fsf@gnu.org> <871szqwu51.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <831szqhbc2.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1itt79z.fsf_-_@users.sourceforge.net> <7baa18d4-2b09-caa8-005e-29008a383ad1@cs.ucla.edu> <83mvhwrgd5.fsf@gnu.org> <8539f38f-9a11-44c3-4de7-bb974c96206c@cs.ucla.edu> <8360ojpndr.fsf@gnu.org> <83shrnm0k1.fsf@gnu.org> <83insi5jy9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1477291863 3461 195.159.176.226 (24 Oct 2016 06:51:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 06:51:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 24 08:50:58 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1byZ5z-0008SE-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:50:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44906 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byZ61-0003Zm-IR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:50:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:32926) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byZ5P-0003ZZ-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:50:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byZ5L-0001bl-Au for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:50:19 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:54957) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1byZ5L-0001WR-4a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1byZ56-0008WN-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:50:02 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUZFigcGSplWDYWEyQK CBUQDh4TESBWFsmKAAACNElEQVQ4jWVTS7LcIAwU5cpbg18OEDsXwE817FMFcwEb1i/jse5/hLSE PflpYQNNq/WDci4xucRLOO1dpNY1EIDWWDi+y87kDPP405Fri+EtCfHAONNzhWnLZXd+aByZlkBG CAaUNYYwiERa6DyEjVTLrorMOI4GuBOAAhjMRK/rBvDKFByAGP60kTzpVeYh+r8Z0vi2hCGqq56F hTvSUaUt3jR8j8oPBsh82TTP4zSP+sfmBKb5H5uoPvTwm21G/XYKGI//bndGenz/rfH6jxNxlcU7 h1qFs4A9G4SLNpBT11O/7q0rhHYwDQlAOGO1PABsFRB48cocReqMKju6XKNljhPqDBAS862u8aoU Dbqkqp4UIGe1whgMGiBVVefU2F0Vpx5VB0CL0TQJDB0jAKXtSSMgp4cRrWmxzxVSvDVtCFqJWCOj mTpXDZMzMPIw1+ESz7kagPz9OZw9wS3DOw2ymitl+D6iWozgv0CdNWVSO4EVt96qOtRYYcwGNDAC 4q074tcpuzKvIozqVrwSHgj+OHWgNBHZcu438BqYdcypYN8BvKuojNgBK6E8S+XdQ5Q8ABMvLXFK T2hD3JkGo9IjGnVIgqtNpfAMQUcRLA/VeKp4taVoysi0VfV1QL2gyQkt2HmHLyob4t2PnDEueOkC IGEGA92xT6kDaIxgMrBZNQ8AOzRsjpIgEqzv5gqqWe1+QLnddFk+qeSXHT9LvdarASf4Y36+LjUF Suubj/nrC/j8BU7TyZKEdTgsAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <83insi5jy9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:39:58 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208656 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> If I re-add international/characters it goes up a bit to >> 0.96s, but still nowhere near the 3s I got on my big .elc file. >> [ I wonder what makes loading my big file so slow. ] >> >> This said, there's still a factor 5-10 to get to "immediate", tho. > > A small price to pay for the advantages, IMO. I think a one second startup time for "emacs -Q -nw" on a fast machine sounds pretty horrific, myself. Not all people live in Emacs, but instead start and stop Emacs to do small edits to files. It would also make using Emacs on slower, smaller mobile devices an unsatisfying experience. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no