From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp and Guile Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:35:59 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200207200035.g6K0ZAb27891@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207212015.g6LKF4c00874@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207251807.g6PI75d07615@aztec.santafe.edu> <874renlito.fsf@zagadka.ping.de> <200207271853.g6RIre710837@aztec.santafe.edu> <200207310554.g6V5ssc16508@aztec.santafe.edu> <200208022214.g72MELZ01879@aztec.santafe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028403394 24747 127.0.0.1 (3 Aug 2002 19:36:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 19:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17b4hV-0006R2-00 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:36:33 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17b51J-0007QO-00 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:57:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17b4hz-0003Nz-00; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 15:37:03 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17b4hI-0003Fv-00 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 15:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17b4ge-0006OS-00 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:35:40 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17b4ge-0006OJ-00 for ; Sat, 03 Aug 2002 21:35:40 +0200 Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: quimbies.gnus.org Original-X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1028403340 23357 80.91.231.2 (3 Aug 2002 19:35:40 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 19:35:40 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Various's _Documenta II_: "The Notwist - N.L." User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: |J List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:6263 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:6263 Sam Steingold writes: >> Since visibility of the work on Guile Emacs seem to be pretty much >> nil, one way to prove that CLISP would be a better way would be to >> simply get a barely working emacs clone running on it and document >> some design considerations and thoughts. I'm sure it would attract >> people that want to work on it. > > I am not so sure about it. I, for one, would be quite interested in working on a CL Emacs, if there was any hope of there being a chance of it succeeding. My day job is writing Common Lisp stuff, and there are quite a few times I've yearned for the power of Emacs when doing stuff in Common Lisp. (Mostly text-based stuff, but there are just so many libraries in Emacs for doing, well, absolutely anything, that it would be so handy...) And the reverse as well -- when writing Emacs Lisp, I'm crying out for the power of a Common Lisp underneath the hood. A combination of a powerful Lisp with Emacs is extremely alluring. (It's not that Scheme is a bad idea; it's just that there's a lot of thought gone into Common Lisp on how to do, er, a *lot* of things. Scheme is a lot more stripped down, and when you add new stuff to fill in the blanks, you usually end up with something that doesn't cohere as well as a mature implementation.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen