From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: obscure Emacs redisplay bug (Windows?) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:14:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <25964.1110264663@www33.gmx.net> <000401c52401$bca4a080$f20d7b50@v357900157> <000201c52494$567b2d40$2f322f3e@v357900157> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1110370556 27348 80.91.229.2 (9 Mar 2005 12:15:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 13:15:56 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D906B-00037x-8e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 13:15:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D90Kp-0001jG-HJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:30:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D8zbh-00070x-CL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:44:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D8zbe-00070L-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:44:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D8zS9-0005Hh-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:34:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D8z8v-0005Xk-ER for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2005 06:14:21 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 2081 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2005 11:14:19 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2005 11:14:19 -0000 Original-To: "Martin Rudalics" In-Reply-To: <000201c52494$567b2d40$2f322f3e@v357900157> (Martin Rudalics's message of "Wed, 9 Mar 2005 08:44:21 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:34367 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:34367 "Martin Rudalics" writes: >> Do you get a menu-bar if you start emacs -q ? > > No. > No menu-bar on windows -- that's very odd. Sounds like the version you got is hoaxed? >> >> If you do, something in your .emacs disables the menu-bar. >> > > I don't get a menubar without any .emacs at all. > >> >> I don't know what happens here. >> >> Can you produce a self-contained test that can demonstrate the problem? >> > > I shall send you my 7000 lines code and the necessary instructions. I will look at it... > >> > Finally, I noticed that my display flickers >> > more frequently - in particular when I display a customization buffer in >> > a subwindow. >> >> I'm not that familiar with the Windows port, but others have reported >> flickering problems - especially with tooltips and the toolbar updates -- >> that still need to be investigated. >> > > Customization buffers - that seems more related to widgets, buttons > and the like. However, intuitively I would say that windows refresh > more frequently - likely my code is responsible for it (windows > means individual Emacs windows). Could be... > >> > I shall tell you more when I have managed to get this Emacs more stable: >> > While I wrote these lines it has crashed my Windows twice and does very >> > strange things with my harddisk whenever it starts up. Once more, >> > thanks for your help, >> >> What version of windows? > > Windows ME (as long as Emacs doesn't crash it) No wonder... Windows ME is the worst version ever -- very unstable. > >> Where did you get the pre-built emacs ? > > http://nqmacs.sourceforge.net/ > >> >> Maybe it was built in a special way? >> > > `emacs-version' gives me > > GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-windows98.3000) of 2005-01-30 on NONIQPC Anybody else tried that version with good results? -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk