From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Schmitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs icons Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:26:07 +0200 Organization: Hamme net, kren mer och nimmi Message-ID: References: <4301D5EA.7030102@student.lu.se> <20050817.142650.102772208.wl@gnu.org> <1124291947.4303556bec546@webmail.eng.it> <4304F9CC.2060800@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1124400967 13505 80.91.229.2 (18 Aug 2005 21:36:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 21:36:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 18 23:36:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5s34-0004pC-Cs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:35:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5s6b-0001s8-Jy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:39:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E5rzv-0005DN-MR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:32:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E5rzq-000592-P7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:32:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E5rzo-0004yT-V7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:32:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.26.64.15] (helo=deliver.uni-koblenz.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E5s9b-0005xj-Nc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:42:28 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D552993DAC0; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:25:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10666-07; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:25:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fed1.frank-schmitt.net (p54AF2F90.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.175.47.144]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0F886C6B6; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:25:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fed1.frank-schmitt.net.Frank-Schmitt.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fed1.frank-schmitt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE79829065; Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:26:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Lennart Borgman X-Face: :EL9TzGRN){7|oE2~xQ8Q(VjpjsXgX$~gi&rYD5J5p)$w\Thdl~v:7h`/n)J!8nXT%_+Wj6}@EHM8}QbA(9nX-wrQ:ch1%DauV[?kFasXUcnL#+"K8zOx&$@/M'/}, q-eztaJra1|?C+p$h\2XnK-HB"8_U (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:12:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42246 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:42246 Lennart Borgman writes: > Thanks for the information. I did not know that SVG was going to be used > everywhere. Then it looks like I good idea to make both bitmap and SVG > versions. Do you have any idea of how to handle this? > > I have seen there is an SVG plugin for Gimp. However I do not know about > the internal format for Gimp, if that is a bitmap format and/or a vector > format. If Gimp can make both SVG files, png and w32 ico format files > from the same picture then we can solve this easily I guess. But that > depends on how well Gimp can handle this. There may of course also be > other options. Do you know anything about this? If you want to create images in a vector format, you have to use a vector based drawing tool, that means you have to leave Gimp behind and use tools like Inkscape (this is the only mature free vector drawing program I know but I'm no expert in this area). Generally I still think we should give other groups a chance to offer their ideas about the new icon. I mean, emacs-devel is read by coders and not by artists. Of course many of the icons presented look really nice, so there are people here who are both but still if you look at the development of Gnome and KDE programs you will find out that there are many people with exceptional artistic talents but with no talent for (or no joy in) coding who like to contribute to free software development. -- Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bullshit nobody will read.